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SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by leylandi, Jul 30, 2016.
  1. sect44
    I guess you are right, will try. I'm forced to create 2 playlists depending on where the song is stored, card or player but not sure where playlists are saved. Anyway, thanks.
     
  2. ccschua
    I tried spotify as streamer to wm1z (as Bluetooth DAC).

    the sound quality is not so good. do I need premium spotify for a good quality streamer or I can totally forget about BT streaming
     
  3. Whitigir
    LDAC can get upto 24/96, and that is high-resolutions. Don’t listen to all that crap about Bluetooth is compressed format and Flac is not....everything Digital in multibit and PCM are compressed, unless DSD which is Direct Stream Digital.

    Tidal needs more money as high-res is the most expensive. I know QoBuz needs the highest monthly fees for high-res

    However, streaming isn’t going to give you what you want...simply because the app and it algorithm sucks! Period...the reason why Sony only allow Bluetooth streaming is because doing this, at least Sony can interfere with their own DSP and help improve the experiences while avoiding WiFi interferences

    Though, the best is to buy your own CD, rip what you want at the lowest compression possible.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2019
  4. gerelmx1986
    Yeah baby yeah
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    Mini me version of MDR-Z1R
     
  5. BaltColts
    Sorry for my ignorance. What model is this one?
     
  6. gerelmx1986
    DAP is a Sony NW-WM1A, In-ears are Sony newest flagship IER-Z1R
     
  7. nyxstef
    I've been out of loop for latest DAPs for some time.

    I just bought Sony IER-M9 for replazing my Z5. Right now I'm thinking of getting a DAP with 4.4mm balanced output.

    I realized that WM1A has been out since 2016, and its smaller sibling (ZX300) was released in 2018.

    Is it still worth it to get WM1A now? Considering that it was released few years ago, I assume that its successor would be released soon.
     
  8. Redcarmoose
    We don’t know when something new will be out. No one knows.
     
  9. gerelmx1986
    I like what I am hearing with my WM1A + IER-Z1R combo, very good resolution, and yes, like you, I come from xba-z5
     
  10. bflat
    IMHO, if you are interested in the WM1A, I would look for a good price in classified instead of buying new.

    To be a DAP owner is like being a smartphone owner. There is a long runway of improvements that will come but not here today due to technological limitations. Additionally, DAPs are now seeing more brands enter the high end category when it use to be exclusively Astell Kern. Either you have the discipline to use your DAP for a 5+ year cycle or you go through enough upgrades while losing about 50% of your initial investment each time. Alternatively, if you don't mind being one generation behind, you can buy used DAPs on classified for a very good price, especially when a new model comes out and folks upgrade in mass. I think you will find that the DAP owners who upgrade frequently take immaculate care of their gear because they know they will end up selling with the next upgrade.
     
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  11. Kitechaser
    Can somebody please break down the sound differences between firmware 2.0, 3.0, and 3.1.
    I am using 3.1, Direct Sound off and no DSP options on at the moment. I am finding the mid bass with direct sound to be a bit too much, to the point that it is drowning out micro details. I would like to know if prior firmwares would be better suited for me.
    Thank you

    Add: 3.0 is pretty bad, bass is weak, no textures. Onto 2.0.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  12. rtjoa
    WM1Z with Brimar Deep State 12 wire cables (High Resolution and Warm Analog) :)

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  13. Redcarmoose
    I assume your using the 1A?

    The player type should also be noted as the firmware is different sounding on each.

    2.0 was fine with 1A, but was missing Bluetooth receiver option and DAC option. Also 3.0 introduced vinyl sound filter but 3.0 was unstable, also it took forever for the database to build.

    3.01 was a huge jump in sound quality for the 1A over 3.0. Though it also changed the 1Z a little. Still many users use every firmware as it’s subjective which is best. Also remember people are using different IEMs which have different sounds.

    But depending on your sound preference, nothing wrong with 2.0 as long as you don’t want the extras.

    The only firmware you can’t go back to is 1.0 which came with the very first Walkman introductions. No one I think liked it anyway. But you even now have people liking the very first firmware revision over anything new.

    But it’s strange that 1.0 is not around as you would think people may have needed it? Though the next update was fairly fast if I understand things.

    As Walkman builds moved along newer ones actually came with newer firmware. I purchased mine in November 2017 just as 2.0 was about to be released. But now I run both the 1A and 1Z with 3.01 as I use the Bluetooth receiver function and like the sound otherwise. By most accounts here, 3.0 was not good with the 1A. That’s the group consensus, though it does not mean it’s right for all.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
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  14. Kitechaser
    Yes I am using the WM1A.

    Add: Just tried 2.0, smaller stage, and glitchy UI. 3.01 is the best, by far.
    So I'll stick to Direct Sound off, and no DSP options turned on. It suits me the best.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  15. Kitechaser
    Thank you for this. I agree with everything you said. 2.0 outside of 3.01 is the best sounding to my ears, minus the smaller stage, it is lower on details than all the DSP options turned off including direct sound on the 3.01.
    I found one of your earlier posts with a link to all the firmware updates, and the quick A/B test was pretty conclusive.
    Crazy how much the sound on this DAP changes with firmware updates.
     

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