Sony MDR-V700DJ's better then Beyerdynamic?
Dec 13, 2002 at 5:37 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 12

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So yeah I went over to my friends house with my new Beyerdynamic DT258-80's so he could try them out (he uses Sony MDR-V700DJ's and has for quite a few years, the first pair he got cracked after a few years so he recently bought a new pair) before I bought my beyers I tried his v700djs, and I did not like them. Id wear them for less then an hour and my ears would get hot and sweaty, they actually gave me a headache after I used them all evening from the pressure.

Right when he put my beyers on he said "these don’t block out half the sound the 700djs do". I figured that was because the 700DJs rape your ears so hard and push up against them its hard to hear anything. After he listened to a few songs and I walked back into the room his comments were "they have high treble" then before I left and I asked how he liked them he said he liked his V700DJs better.

What?

From my understanding the Sony mdr700djs aren’t that good, I sure as hell wasn’t impressed.

It is my opinion he was smoking crack.
Some one please boost my ego, V700’s are more for looks then sound
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Dec 13, 2002 at 5:53 AM Post #4 of 12
And he may be smoking $#!+, as well. The MDR-V700DJ is one very odd headphone: It is extremely efficient, and its impedance is 24 ohms - yet it still requires an extremely powerful and astronomically expensive headphone amp in order to get any low bass at all out of that 'phone! Without an amp, even on a home CD player, the MDR-V700DJ sounds just plain gutless in the bass, and it sounds sizzly and grainy in the treble. The mids are OK, but not as detailed as those of many other 'phones in its price range.
 
Dec 13, 2002 at 5:58 AM Post #5 of 12
"they have high treble" is all he had to say?
Well.. that's pretty funny, considering one of the points against the Beyer DT250-80 is the slightly rolled off treble. I'm assuming he meant they have "harsh" treble in which case he's probably deaf.

He probably wants the V700s to sound better, after all - they're his headphones, it's a common childish thing to ridicule your friends out of envy
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Dec 13, 2002 at 6:05 AM Post #6 of 12
I would like to add to this, even on a portable CD player I get much better bass from other headphones priced at or below the V700DJ's price point than the V700DJ itself.
 
Dec 13, 2002 at 6:14 AM Post #7 of 12
Eagle: that may be the case, but do you also feel like you're a "block rockin dj" who can "mix" his "phat choons" while pulling off some "stylin' moves" on your "wheels of steel" ?

There's a song by Sonicanimation called "I'm a DJ", every time I hear it I think of the V700DJs
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Dec 13, 2002 at 6:41 AM Post #8 of 12
omg you guys rule i love this place
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also, he didnt say harsh trebel he said high. I assume he ment the trebel stands out or something, I havent a clue his equalizer was prolly screwed up. he thinks hes a dj, but hes not.
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Dec 13, 2002 at 7:03 AM Post #9 of 12
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Originally posted by Techniques
omg you guys rule i love this place
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also, he didnt say harsh trebel he said high. I assume he ment the trebel stands out or something, I havent a clue his equalizer was prolly screwed up. he thinks hes a dj, but hes not.
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heh...shouldnt need an eq if the headphones sound fine from the get go eh? I remember bringing over my Sony 7506's to a friend's house and he plugged them into his receiver, he didn't like them because they had too much bass...he had the bass knob all the way up.
 
Dec 13, 2002 at 3:46 PM Post #10 of 12
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Originally posted by Eagle_Driver
And he may be smoking $#!+, as well. The MDR-V700DJ is one very odd headphone: It is extremely efficient, and its impedance is 24 ohms - yet it still requires an extremely powerful and astronomically expensive headphone amp in order to get any low bass at all out of that 'phone! Without an amp, even on a home CD player, the MDR-V700DJ sounds just plain gutless in the bass, and it sounds sizzly and grainy in the treble. The mids are OK, but not as detailed as those of many other 'phones in its price range.


Very odd, Eagle. You've mentioned this before? I'm getting spades of bass out of a Sony Minidisc on the MDR-7509 (which I was surprised at what a sonic clone of the MDR-V700DJ it was) and 'gutless' is the very last thing I'd say about it. There's also some techy talk about midbass but listening to REALLY low stuff I don't see any significant falloff. Grainy treble is about right, mids are fine in detail but a little veiled somehow. Is it just me but do I remember the DT250 as having an even more squashed soundstage than the 7509? I don't think it's that bad... I use it quite often, frequently for the same use as I would perhaps consider the DT250-80 once again for, "extended listening without attention". But the 7509 is much more versatile than the DT250 so I'll trade some sound quality for that for using with minidiscs. But it's definitely no my favourite phone...
 
Dec 13, 2002 at 3:54 PM Post #11 of 12
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Originally posted by bangraman
Very odd, Eagle. You've mentioned this before? I'm getting spades of bass out of a Sony Minidisc on the MDR-7509 and 'gutless' is the very last thing I'd say about it. There's also some techy talk about midbass but listening to REALLY low stuff I don't see any significant falloff. Grainy treble is about right, mids are fine in detail but a little veiled somehow. Is it just me but do I remember the DT250 as having an even more squashed soundstage than the 7509? I don't think it's that bad... I use it quite often, frequently for the same use as I would perhaps consider the DT250-80 once again for, "extended listening without attention". But the 7509 is much more versatile than the DT250 so I'll trade some sound quality for that for using with minidiscs. But it's definitely no my favourite phone...


You may be right, bangraman. Those V700DJ's that I either had or demoed might not have been run-in to their "optimal" level.
 
Dec 13, 2002 at 4:41 PM Post #12 of 12
Ya... with good headphones, you turn the EQ OFF...

Take them back over again, and intentionally turn the EQ off... and listen to a CD, not an mp3 or something... If you have a portable CD player, play them directly from that with no EQ... his favorite CD, whatever.
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