[XERO1]

hahaha so it's really just a global version of M1ST after all.

Not exactly. The M1 has thicker earpads, different stickers on the earcups, and may have been retuned as well. But physically, there doesn't appear to be any other differences between them.

The M1 and M1ST will probably coexist together, with the M1ST being the Japan-only version. Similar to how the MDR-7605 and MDR-CD900ST have done for decades now.

 

[Bingturong]

The whole Global vs Japan only is a bit confusing since the 7506 was also sold in Japan with the CD900ST. I think an important fact is that the CD900ST and M1ST are sold and supported by Sony Music Solutions which essentially deals with all the physical stuff from packaging to studio management for Sony Music Japan.

On the other hand, the 7506 and M1 are both sold by Sony Electronics. The MV1 is also available in Japan but sold by Sony Electronics, not Sony Music Solutions.

It could just be that the M1 is made by Sony Music Solutions for Sony Electronics, similar to how the 7550 is the Sony Electronics version of the EX800ST. Both of those were sold in Japan but only the 7550 was sold abroad.

As for sounding different? It could possibly be? But I'm less inclined to think that way.

There's also this weird roundabout way that both Sony's use a different Sony corporate entity, Sony/Taiyo Corporation to actually the make the products. For example the M1ST, Z1R and the Just ear IEMs (which is actually a different company from Sony Electronics) all are manufactured by Sony/Taiyo. So that's three different Sony's who manufacture their stuff at an entirely different Sony

Anyway, I think it will be a 7550 vs EX800ST sort of deal. Small differences in the replaceable parts because if the M1 were to use the pads of the M1ST, then you'd need to get replacement pads from Sony Music Solutions so instead Sony Electronics have their own pads. Same thing happened for ear tips for the EX800ST vs 7550 and the 7506 vs CD900ST even though they're perfectly swappable. Just Sony being weird.

 

[ArchDragoon]

Not exactly. The M1 has thicker earpads, different stickers on the earcups, and may have been retuned as well. But physically, there doesn't appear to be any other differences between them.

The M1 and M1ST will probably coexist together, with the M1ST being the Japan-only version. Similar to how the MDR-7605 and MDR-CD900ST have done for decades now.

Oh yes, you're right. The pads definitely look thicker.

 

[justsomesonyfan]

Sigh. So what now, do I sell my mdr mv1? These look tempting

 

[MacFrank]

Sigh. So what now, do I sell my mdr mv1? These look tempting

Why? Those are different concepts, imho. MV1 is an open back and is marketed for AV production, the M1 seems made for a different (monitoring) purpose.

 

[justsomesonyfan]

Why? Those are different concepts, imho. MV1 is an open back and is marketed for AV production, the M1 seems made for a different (monitoring) purpose.

Fair enough, I seem to prefer closed back headphones honestly. So I'm genuinely considering it

 

[MacFrank]

Fair enough, I seem to prefer closed back headphones honestly. So I'm genuinely considering it

I will always be part of the curious crowd, therefore fully support your endeavour. just wanted to make sure, you didn’t confuse the M1 for an open back

 

[thanatosguan]

The whole Global vs Japan only is a bit confusing since the 7506 was also sold in Japan with the CD900ST. I think an important fact is that the CD900ST and M1ST are sold and supported by Sony Music Solutions which essentially deals with all the physical stuff from packaging to studio management for Sony Music Japan.

On the other hand, the 7506 and M1 are both sold by Sony Electronics. The MV1 is also available in Japan but sold by Sony Electronics, not Sony Music Solutions.

It could just be that the M1 is made by Sony Music Solutions for Sony Electronics, similar to how the 7550 is the Sony Electronics version of the EX800ST. Both of those were sold in Japan but only the 7550 was sold abroad.

As for sounding different? It could possibly be? But I'm less inclined to think that way.

There's also this weird roundabout way that both Sony's use a different Sony corporate entity, Sony/Taiyo Corporation to actually the make the products. For example the M1ST, Z1R and the Just ear IEMs (which is actually a different company from Sony Electronics) all are manufactured by Sony/Taiyo. So that's three different Sony's who manufacture their stuff at an entirely different Sony

Anyway, I think it will be a 7550 vs EX800ST sort of deal. Small differences in the replaceable parts because if the M1 were to use the pads of the M1ST, then you'd need to get replacement pads from Sony Music Solutions so instead Sony Electronics have their own pads. Same thing happened for ear tips for the EX800ST vs 7550 and the 7506 vs CD900ST even though they're perfectly swappable. Just Sony being weird.

Sony/Taiyo is just a manufacturing company much like how Foxconn manufactures iPhones for Apple. No need to worry about them at all. It's impossible to manufacture all products at the same location under the same corporate umbrella unless your business is extremely small. It's actually pretty amazing Sony still has an manufacturing arm at all. It's very expensive to maintain. Also Taiyo here means they employ persons with disabilities here and doing quite a bit of good to society. This factory is singled out as a branding because of this. On top of that, this factory only manufactures the most exclusive Sony audio products like their legendary C-800G microphone.

The major distinction here is Sony Music Japan vs. Sony Corporation (the electronics division). The first manages all the "ST" branded headphones and they're sold without warranty because technically these are like pen & paper for the music industry: necessary staionery for the recording studios and the breakage are usually covered in other contracts instead of individually. This is why ST headphones come in those paper boxes instead of an elaborate package you see in consumer products.

Sony Corporation is the consumer facing one that sells these headphones in well-packaged boxes, marketing, and warranty.

 

[jb2unique]

Just got word from Sony Electronics team that this model is the successor to replace the legendary MDR-7506

 

[ArchDragoon]

Just got word from Sony Electronics team that this model is the successor to replace the legendary MDR-7506

So, 7506 will be discontinued then?

 

[jaifai]

They're ~2.5X what the excellent and satisfactory 7506 pro's have been for years. Regardless of how impressed hundreds of reviewers are bound to be, maybe if these "successors" are manufactured in Japan, I'll trial a pair next year.

If I should get my own 7506 "replacement" word from Sony, I'll probably add a last issue of my current pro solution.

 

[RuslanG]

I wonder how the M1 compared to the ATH-M70x?
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The question is withdrawn

 

[Bingturong]

Rather saddened that the M1 are coming in paper box like how the 7506 currently comes in



I really love the old Sony professional boxes, even if its plastic

 

[ArchDragoon]

I miss the good old package of MDR-7510 and MDR-7520 it looks really luxury and the material of MDR-7520 that's really a premium material.

 

[Bingturong]

Speaking of the 7520 and 7510, I wonder if the M1 will actually last sometime in production.

Theyve been multiple sucessors to the 7506; the 7509, 7509HD, the 7510 and 7520, yet the 7506 still outlasts them all. Granted all the headphones are based on consumer headphones.

Actually would this mean the M1/M1ST are actually the first built from the ground up pro headphones Sony had in a long time? Theres the old DR-M line but thats from the 70s-80s