Sony MDR-CD3000 or Beyerdynamic DT880 for Metal/Rock ??

[Slaxl]

the SA5000 ist certainly good but it costs too much for me.

i'm very interested in the cd3000. Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 is for metal and rock? / Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 for metal and rock is?

Please correct my grammar.

 

[MaZa]

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Originally Posted by Slaxl /img/forum/go_quote.gif the SA5000 ist certainly good but it costs too much for me. i'm very interested in the cd3000. Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 is for metal and rock? / Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 for metal and rock is? Please correct my grammar.

This is a question only you can answer after you have heard it. Because everyones ears are different, opinions vary. I have gotten impression that people have liked it for metal, but as in case of Blackmore, he dislikes it for same music. Same with SA5000. Others keep it piercing and sharp, other ears like its speed and aggressive attack.

However, be it this or that, it will be one helluva headphone especially if you havent got much experience with good headphones and its a very good excellent starting point. From there you can pick a direction where you would to head, like if one desires more/less bass, more/less mids or more/less highs and so on.

 

[DJShadow]

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Originally Posted by MaZa /img/forum/go_quote.gif This is a question only you can answer after you have heard it. Because everyones ears are different, opinions vary. I have gotten impression that people have liked it for metal, but as in case of Blackmore, he dislikes it for same music. Same with SA5000. Others keep it piercing and sharp, other ears like its speed and aggressive attack. However, be it this or that, it will be one helluva headphone especially if you havent got much experience with good headphones and excellent starting point. From there you can pic a direction where to head, like if one desires more/less bass, more/less mids or more/less highs and so on.

Yeah MaZa's on the money there-you can only get an indication of what a headphone sounds like in general by reading about it, but you won't be any nearer to knowing for sure what it sounds like.

Whats interesting Slaxl is how you've inferred that the sa5k is more expensive than the cd3k. Are you looking at new prices from retail for the sa5k? You can find them for relatively cheap on here and eBay, if you're not concerned about buying second hand. And your first statement 'Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 is for metal and rock?' is correct grammatically.

 

[cosmopragma]

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Originally Posted by Slaxl /img/forum/go_quote.gif the SA5000 ist certainly good but it costs too much for me. i'm very interested in the cd3000. Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 is for metal and rock? / Can someone tell me accurately how good the cd3000 for metal and rock is? Please correct my grammar.

Servus, Slaxl.
Welcome to head-fi and sorry about your wallet.
That's our traditional greeting for new members here and you should take the wallet part as a serious warning.
You are new here and therefor some advices:

You don't have to apologize for your less than perfect english all the time.Just state your location by editing your profile and everyone will be forgiving about some grammatical errors or confusing vocabulary.

What you have to learn better sooner than later is that no one here is able to tell you whether you'll like particular headphones for a given genre or not.This is not only due to different preferences but also due to different anatomy.
The relevant technical term here is HRTF, and that's one reason why opinions here are just hints and you have to audition for yourself.
BTW, you've mentioned audio magazines.These are usually totally clueless as far as headphones audio is concerned.Just ignore them.We here know much more about headphones than they will ever care for.

Another advice: Most of us have to audition or buy/sell several headphones until we get the "right" one for our personal taste/HRTFs.I know, it sucks, but that's just the way it is.Obviously this route can get quite expensive due to losses along the way.Therefor it's wiser to audition before you buy.That might be doable if you are living in Vienna.There might be some audio dealers where you could audition headphones or even better some fellow head-fiers with huge collections you could meet privately.In case you are living in Hintertupfing there's no way to audition headphones without buying them, and in order to keep the losses under control it's wiser to buy used via the FS subforums here or even via Ebay.

On topic about your original questions, but as aforementioned that's only my opinion (although substantial due to my experience) and your mileage may vary:
IME the MDR CD3000 is better suited for metal than the DT 880.In case you can get a CD3000 in good condition for Euro 250 or less just buy it and test it.You'll be easily able to sell it without a loss in case it turns out to be not to your liking and you'd gain some experience.
In the end your question about ideal cans for metal is somewhat dependant on the kind of metal you are listening to.Lots of metal isn't recorded/mastered true to the art.For bad recordings you might be better off with forgiving mid-fi cans like AKG K240S.A detail monster like the Sony MDR-SA5000 (and even the less resolving CD3000) would reveal all the recording/mastering flaws and wouldn't be enjoyable.In case most of your favorite music is recorded decently high-rez systems are O.K. and do sound better most of the time.

 

[khbaur330162]

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Originally Posted by Blackmore /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well, do not want to argue, cos my love for Grado is just a bit BIGGER than the cups of CD3K Anyway, I think you have to love their presentation / sound to love ROCK music with them, IMO. My amp have more than enough power and did sound pretty well with them, but not with ROCK at all. They do not have punch and the highs are to spiky. Of course, if you get the right amp for them, they may do better. But even then do not think so, not to my taste anyway. Their soundstage creation feels not real, but artificial, IMO. It seems that the sound coming from cave or something. I don't now, I didn't get any emotions with ROCK, but JAZZ, AMBIENT and some TRANCE were totally o.k. with them, but no more than that.

I'd look to your source for the ''source'' (

) of your "spiky" treble range. Mated with a Sony source they sound silky smooth to my ears. They were a bit iffy with my old Daewoo, however.

CD3000's are very true to what your sources and amps have to say about the music. If they have a noisy background, you'll hear it. If they have a sibilant treble range, you'll hear it. If the bass is bloated, you'll hear it. For the most part, when people find fault in the CD3000's they are mistaken. It's simply the rest of their rig that is deficient.

Every time I make an upgrade to my rig, the CD3000's shine through brighter and brighter. And for that reason I will never sell them.

Given that I don't listen to much metal, I may not have the entire genre scoped out for you all. However, when matched with a nice and catered rig, it's hard for these things to disappoint.

 

[Slaxl]

I listen to every kind of metal and rock beside grindcore, black metal, brutal death metal.

In my case, i have head the cd3000 and dt880 once but too short.

@khbaur330162: are there modified CD3000?? you've written it.


i think i will take the CD3000 because i can purchase the DT880 everytime i want (to). If i dont like the CD3000 i can sell it on ebay or??

but i would like to hear some further opinions about the CD3000.

 

[khbaur330162]

My pair of CD3000's are recabled, and the driver housings have been swapped out by Larry of Headphile with Purple Heart replacements. Refer to my icon or signature for pictures.