SONY IER-Z1R
Jan 3, 2021 at 4:57 PM Post #9,526 of 15,264
Well... After a long wait the Kimber cable is here!!!

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Thanks again to @Damz87

Now time to try them out!!
 
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Jan 3, 2021 at 9:20 PM Post #9,527 of 15,264
Well... After a long wait the Kimber cable is here!!!

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Thanks again to @Damz87

Now time to try them out!!


They stay in my ears better with the Sony Kimber cable. I think they sound better too.
 
Jan 4, 2021 at 12:50 AM Post #9,529 of 15,264
Well... After a long wait the Kimber cable is here!!!

0720955E-DFA4-425B-B449-0A22EA8907B1.jpeg

Thanks again to @Damz87

Now time to try them out!!
Got the kimber a while ago too. Better hook for my ears.
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Probably will order a thinner cable in the future for 3.5mm termination to see how it goes.
 
Jan 4, 2021 at 2:13 AM Post #9,530 of 15,264
Jan 4, 2021 at 4:04 AM Post #9,534 of 15,264
Doesn’t your ear lobe feel absolutely gutted after a long session? That looks painful even 😅
Not really, my canal is swallow so even short nozzle shove all the way into my ears, creating a seal.
Usually I want cable with earhook and chin slider for this reason, since my ear is too small and swallow, nothing touch my ears causing pain, but I need some weight distribution.
 
Jan 4, 2021 at 4:05 AM Post #9,535 of 15,264
Jan 4, 2021 at 11:50 AM Post #9,536 of 15,264
It took me two months to realize that the Z1R's really appreciate a powerful source. Although I was very satisfied using them in my WM1A, with Mr. Walkman firmware, a few days ago I tried connecting them to a simple Shanling M2s paired via usb with the old model of the Xduoo 05 and the result is simply spectacular. The bass has more authority and presence (without being invasive) and the scene has been increased, without losing a pinch of clarity or extension in the highs.
 
Jan 4, 2021 at 7:19 PM Post #9,537 of 15,264
It took me two months to realize that the Z1R's really appreciate a powerful source. Although I was very satisfied using them in my WM1A, with Mr. Walkman firmware, a few days ago I tried connecting them to a simple Shanling M2s paired via usb with the old model of the Xduoo 05 and the result is simply spectacular. The bass has more authority and presence (without being invasive) and the scene has been increased, without losing a pinch of clarity or extension in the highs.

Agreed. I recently acquired the burson soloist and the z1r sings with the extra power.
 
Jan 4, 2021 at 10:29 PM Post #9,538 of 15,264
Out of the DAP’s/sources I’ve got, my order of sound preferences with the Z1R are:

1. Sony DMP-Z1
2. Sony TA-ZH1ES
3. iBasso DX220 Max
4. AK Kann Alpha
5. Sony WM1Z (with Mr. Walkman FW)
6. Sony ZX507
7. Lotoo Paw S1
8. Sony A105
9. iPhone dongle

I’m about to pull the trigger on an AK SP2000 so I’ll report back on that pair up, but reading through the SP2K thread, lots of folks have mentioned it being an excellent match for Z1R.

Just noticed the looto paw s1 is actually a dongle :) although its ranked number 7.....the 6 above it are really high end!! How would you rate the difference in quality to lets say....the WM1Z? is it far in sound quality? Really planning to get a portable dongle for the z1r. so far looks like

1) looto paw s1 120mw balanced
2) ibasso dc04 195mw balanced
3) xduoo link 2 150mw unbalanced

if cost is not an issue, which would be recommended for the s1? Do the s1 really need that much power above 120mw? i heard the s1 only once through the apple dongle and it sounds awesome, but hadnt tried with any other sources yet
 
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Jan 4, 2021 at 10:35 PM Post #9,539 of 15,264
@https://www.head-fi.org/members/mal-waldron.468859/
They always had a slight something with the Sony TA desktop over the Walkmans? Though besides power, tone is all together another thing.
 
Jan 5, 2021 at 8:16 AM Post #9,540 of 15,264
Just noticed the looto paw s1 is actually a dongle :) although its ranked number 7.....the 6 above it are really high end!! How would you rate the difference in quality to lets say....the WM1Z? is it far in sound quality? Really planning to get a portable dongle for the z1r. so far looks like

1) looto paw s1 120mw balanced
2) ibasso dc04 195mw balanced
3) xduoo link 2 150mw unbalanced

if cost is not an issue, which would be recommended for the s1? Do the s1 really need that much power above 120mw? i heard the s1 only once through the apple dongle and it sounds awesome, but hadnt tried with any other sources yet

I haven’t heard any other dongle-type dac/amps so I don’t know how the paw S1 compares to similar products like the iBasso or xduoo you mentioned, but the S1’s sound quality is super impressive for what it is. The power output in high gain from the 4.4mm port seems to be enough to power the Z1R’s decently well. It’s an easy recommendation given the price. However, the WM1Z sound quality is quite a few steps above overall imho.
 

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