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  1. cj3209
    I like heavy metal when the mood hits me (Van Halen, AC DC, Ozzy, Metallica, etc.) but I have to be honest: I'm not critically listening to things like sound stage, instrument separation, bass timbre, etc. I just want a good loud electric guitar rift where the music is more important than my gear, ie., I can listen to heavy metal with my old iPods and I'll be happy.

    But listening to jazz, pop, vocals, opera, classical, etc., I listen more critically which drives me to purchase more high end gear.

    Maybe it's just me...
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2019
  2. PotatoPotatoPotato
    I heard the Andromeda and for it's time it is my favourite too, but as time goes on I think there are better IEM than the andromeda that I listen to (Z1r, u12t,...) they still very good and can compete with more expensive IEM, but not all of them. As for the Z1r they don't have that much bass as some online review may imply, i would say that the Z1r bass are more quality than quantity(the shure se846 have more bass and those are all Balanced Armature iem) , though there are still plenty of them, just not overwhelming other elements. Compare to the Andromeda it's wider, airier, the mid is a bit more recess(though it's very natural for how wide the soundstage is), the bass is more dynamic(fast and very detailed and didn't bleed into the mid) and the highs have more details. I think they are an amazing IEM and to me I can happily own just the z1r, though with this hobby it's not that simple.
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  3. gerelmx1986
    Great IEMa dor Mozart's Great Mass in C minor. I am so impressed hownthey handle this work seamlessly
  4. Peter Ruby
    So I’ve read from a number of people that the IER-Z1Rs have a larger soundstage than the MDR-Z1Rs.

    How can such a thing be possible?
  5. purk Contributor
    No it doesn’t but it is more resolving than the MDR-Z1R and the soundstage size is very remarkable for IEM. I also like the tonal balance better with the IER being less bright, slightly warmer, and having better low bass output. The MDR-Z1R is boomier in midbass IMO.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2019
  6. phonomat
    My impressions are the exact opposite: I do indeed perceive the soundstage of the IER as being quite a bit larger than the MDR's. Also my MDR sounds warmer and less bright to me than my IER by several orders of magnitude. I always found the MDR quite warm, dark and even a bit dull. The IER is anything but.
    Agree re: bass, fwiw.
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  7. purk Contributor
    What I meant “bright” on the MDR-Z1R is a rather peaky response but not overall bright tonality. I don’t have the MDR anymore but I don’t enjoy the MDR with everything mostly due to that extra mid bass that’s always there. The IER’s extra boost in low bass however really make every genre enjoyable to my ears. I think the IER is a fantastic earphones/headphones.
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  8. Tristy
    Just a quick question, has anybody tried connecting standard mmcx connectors from the likes of Effect Audio to the Z1R? Im aware that the female connection on the Z1R's are a little recessed.
  9. purk Contributor
    I tried the FiiO silver litz one and had a very hard time removing it from the socket so I just use the stock cable now. I think the stock cable is really good.
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  10. Peter Ruby
    I never used a Effect Audio cable, but I did plug in my Fiio LC-4.4C cable without any issue at all.

    Stick with the stock cable because it's perfect.
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  11. purk Contributor
    Plug in is no issue but removing is difficult. Agreed on the stock cable.
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  12. nc8000 Contributor
    I tried the Sony Kimber 4.4 and like others say plugging in is no problem but getting the cable off again is a bit of a struggle. I also think the stock cable is really good and just use it. I use the stock 3.5 cable via mmcx->2pin adaptors with my JH13 customs as my other cable broke and I actually like the Sony cable better.
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  13. nc8000 Contributor
    I also think I prefer the IER over the MDR but I do love both of them and would not get rid of either
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  14. purk Contributor
    The IER is just so musical to me. I can use it with any genre including MP3s and not so good recorded music...something that I can’t never go for on my Stax and HD800.
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2019
  15. gerelmx1986
    Have the same feeling, i like the IER more thab the MDR, but both haventheir character and at the end the have some how.similiar aound. But i perceive the MDR a bit peaky and bright as @purk said. In fact i purchased the MDR von Ihm. Still likenthem both and will not get rid if f the MDR
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