SOHA II Builders Thread
Aug 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM Post #976 of 1,694

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I like the hex, the grommets will clean up the look - although you may need to vinyl due them like CFCubed did on his CTH - Chris, do you have a link to that process?


My vinyl dye link is in the Post Pics thread, could search my posts there for it but think its overkill for 2 little tube grommets... Vinyl dye is not cheap & not so available. I think the usu spray he used on the grid would work well enough for them, or could leave 'em black (ala the 1/2" jack).
 
Aug 12, 2009 at 4:11 AM Post #980 of 1,694

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I'd leave them black. Too much silver IMO.

After a few days of listening to this amp, I've noticed a few things: But first a detail of the setup (which is definitely not 'audiophile' grade), PS3 source, HDMI to Panasonic Plasma, Acoustic Research RCA cable (10$ surplus special) and the piece de resistance: Signal Flex SF-140 32ohm?? closed headphones.

These headphones require an amp. I've tried them in un'amped sources and there's no bottom/high end. Complete bandpass filter sound. My CMOY drove them ok, nice mid/high end, not much low end again. The SOHA II through these headphones makes all my old and new music sound like I was listening to it for the first time again. Perfect tight bass, super wide soundstage, the highs sound liquid smooth. I had no idea these no name headphones sounded so good. A former, former roomate of 2 houses ago forgot these when he moved out and never came back for them. I can't find any info on these phones. But I'm pretty happy with them for the moment. I have to say that the DAC in the Panasonic Plasma is better than the DAC in my Sony MP3 Walkman. It sounds grating to me through the SOHA II, as do MP3's lower then 256kbit. Even still the compression artifacts are distracting, 128kbit makes me grind my teeth. Thanks Alex for a great amp!

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My vinyl dye link is in the Post Pics thread, could search my posts there for it but think its overkill for 2 little tube grommets... Vinyl dye is not cheap & not so available. I think the usu spray he used on the grid would work well enough for them, or could leave 'em black (ala the 1/2" jack).


 
Aug 12, 2009 at 4:27 AM Post #981 of 1,694

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Congrats on your amp build jjazzyj
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Enjoy!
 
Aug 12, 2009 at 4:59 PM Post #982 of 1,694

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I'd leave them black. Too much silver IMO.

After a few days of listening to this amp, I've noticed a few things: But first a detail of the setup (which is definitely not 'audiophile' grade), PS3 source, HDMI to Panasonic Plasma, Acoustic Research RCA cable (10$ surplus special) and the piece de resistance: Signal Flex SF-140 32ohm?? closed headphones.

These headphones require an amp. I've tried them in un'amped sources and there's no bottom/high end. Complete bandpass filter sound. My CMOY drove them ok, nice mid/high end, not much low end again. The SOHA II through these headphones makes all my old and new music sound like I was listening to it for the first time again. Perfect tight bass, super wide soundstage, the highs sound liquid smooth. I had no idea these no name headphones sounded so good. A former, former roomate of 2 houses ago forgot these when he moved out and never came back for them. I can't find any info on these phones. But I'm pretty happy with them for the moment. I have to say that the DAC in the Panasonic Plasma is better than the DAC in my Sony MP3 Walkman. It sounds grating to me through the SOHA II, as do MP3's lower then 256kbit. Even still the compression artifacts are distracting, 128kbit makes me grind my teeth. Thanks Alex for a great amp!



jjazzyj, what tubes are you using? The stock RCA 5963?
 
Aug 12, 2009 at 5:04 PM Post #983 of 1,694

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I'd leave them black. Too much silver IMO.

After a few days of listening to this amp, I've noticed a few things: But first a detail of the setup (which is definitely not 'audiophile' grade), PS3 source, HDMI to Panasonic Plasma, Acoustic Research RCA cable (10$ surplus special) and the piece de resistance: Signal Flex SF-140 32ohm?? closed headphones.

These headphones require an amp. I've tried them in un'amped sources and there's no bottom/high end. Complete bandpass filter sound. My CMOY drove them ok, nice mid/high end, not much low end again. The SOHA II through these headphones makes all my old and new music sound like I was listening to it for the first time again. Perfect tight bass, super wide soundstage, the highs sound liquid smooth. I had no idea these no name headphones sounded so good. A former, former roomate of 2 houses ago forgot these when he moved out and never came back for them. I can't find any info on these phones. But I'm pretty happy with them for the moment. I have to say that the DAC in the Panasonic Plasma is better than the DAC in my Sony MP3 Walkman. It sounds grating to me through the SOHA II, as do MP3's lower then 256kbit. Even still the compression artifacts are distracting, 128kbit makes me grind my teeth. Thanks Alex for a great amp!



Happy to hear the good news!! Now you must listen to your entire music collection again.
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The tubes I'm using are the GE 5963 grey plates that came with the Glass Jar kit. I've listened to this amp with a few different 'generic' headphones and they seem to colour the sound far more than the tubes do. Those Signal Flex headphones sound like how people describe the AKG K601. The bass is there but is isn't 'enhanced' by any stretch. As an example, when I'm listening to trance, some tracks have lots of bass, and others seem like there is no bass. It all depends on the track it seems. When I plug in my POS Sony 'DJ' headphones everything is a horrible blurry mess filled with boomy bass. They really are the worst headphones I've ever used. That includes the airline ones...

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jjazzyj, what tubes are you using? The stock RCA 5963?


 
Aug 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM Post #985 of 1,694

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Haha, my CD binder which was collecting dust is now by my SOHA II!! I'm doing the ADD music surfing dance, listening to a few minutes of every song to hear the nuances and detail that I didn't hear before.

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Happy to hear the good news!! Now you must listen to your entire music collection again.
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Aug 12, 2009 at 11:13 PM Post #986 of 1,694

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The tubes I'm using are the GE 5963 grey plates that came with the Glass Jar kit.


I think I'll order and give RCA or GE 5963 a try. The ones (Phillips ECG 5963) that came in my kit sounded quite lifeless. Or maybe they just aren't made for RS-1.
 
Aug 13, 2009 at 2:12 AM Post #987 of 1,694

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I found some NOS Sylvania/Philips ECG 5963 and some Sylvania 5814A locally for 3$ each and I'm giving them a listen right now. I realize this is probably more for the SOHA II tube thread, but it seems sort of dead. I'll let you know what I think.

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I think I'll order and give RCA or GE 5963 a try. The ones (Phillips ECG 5963) that came in my kit sounded quite lifeless. Or maybe they just aren't made for RS-1.


 
Aug 13, 2009 at 2:48 AM Post #988 of 1,694

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Sylvania 5814A:

Much deeper bottom end at the sacrifice of tightness, more relaxed perhaps. More relaxed sound in general. Soundstage is interesting, music sounds more '3d'. Wish it had more high end detail.

GE 5963

Very airy and pronounced mid and highs, borderline annoying but still enjoyable, Wall of sound. Bass is subdued but tight. Not as '3d' as 5814A.

Need to combine aspects of both tubes.

Sylvania/Philips ECG 5963

One of the tubes seems microphonic. It's ok. Nothing special. Slightly more high end detail than 5814A though it might be my imagination.

Someone with better ears and better equipment than my Signal Flex SF-140 might have better commentary.

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I found some NOS Sylvania/Philips ECG 5963 and some Sylvania 5814A locally for 3$ each and I'm giving them a listen right now. I realize this is probably more for the SOHA II tube thread, but it seems sort of dead. I'll let you know what I think.


 
Aug 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM Post #989 of 1,694

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Here's another first time poster on this thread. Just finished my SOHA II, hot on the heels of an extended tweaking & development period with the Bijou.

The SOHA is very different from the Bijou, although IMO no less satisfying. Although significantly more complicated, it went together easily & following the excellent setup instructions, fired up without problems first time. All voltages & currents are as specified.

Using the GJ kit included JAN Sylvania 5963's, the sound is very tight & clean, with a good soundstage & 3D depth & air, but not to the same extent as the Bijou. I tried some Mullard CV4003's ("Box Plate", 1965) & these take it to the next level. Beautiful mids, especially female vocals (these tubes are famous for this) & a warmer more expansive sound than the 5963's. Highs are also a bit more extended. These old tubes with a classical "British" sound have softened the amp's sound, yet the beautiful deep tight bass is retained.

I'm running HD650's (with Stefan AudioArt cables) & the match is excellent, IMO. The SS output buffer better controls the bottom end of the 650's than the Bijou. Another great aspect of the design is the capacity to roll in many different tubes with very little effort required to dial them in. Many hours of harmless fun ahead here.

Other than a decent case/chassis (transformer & PCB are on two separate small chassis at present joined by a three core cable), the only other planned tweaks are upgrading some caps (C1, 2 & perhaps a few critical ones in the PS).

Hats off & many thanks to Alex for another cracker design.
 
Aug 21, 2009 at 2:39 AM Post #990 of 1,694

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After an extended period of not using my SOHA II, I decided to clean up my input wires and go through the initial setup again today. All was well until I had to measure TPR and TPL vs. TB+R and TB+L. I tried three sets of tubes and not one set was even close to the 19 volt difference. I believe this indicates that my tubes are all no good?

When I was testing it, the epsilon tripped quite a few times. I have not tried to listen to it and hope that my problems will be solved simply by getting some new tubes. As a tube newbie, I believe I tried at least some of these tubes at 12.6 v, which they did not like and could have hurt the tubes.

Thanks for any and all help.
 

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