Skeptico Saloon: An Objectivist Joint

[krismusic]

I suspect that our musical tastes are quite different but the last album to really impress me is Howlin by Jagwar Ma. Loud and noisy though. Somebody that you may well like (and probably know already) is Fiona Apple.

BTW. This was in response to Bigshot asking about music. Another big surprise to me is how much I like Paul McCartney's New album.

 

[miceblue]

Oh dear...one of my HD albums.


I should get the CD equivalent of the album and see how the mastering is on that.

 

[MygpuK]

Inviting all the sirs from the saloon to a related thread (sorry in advance for my somewhat bad english):
Long story short: We create the development basis for a perfect headphone. (regarding how true high-end headphones should be like)
http://www.head-fi.org/t/690818/the-perfect-stereo-headphone-true-high-end

 

[bigshot]

I can't understand anything you post, I'm afraid. Enjoy it, but I can't participate. 

 

[KamijoIsMyHero]

Me neither and I want to participate. I recommend at least putting the text into something like MIcrosoft Word and pick out any grammar mistakes. Technical talk gets harder with near gibberish documentation.

 

[MygpuK]

Me neither and I want to participate. I recommend at least putting the text into something like MIcrosoft Word and pick out any grammar mistakes. Technical talk gets harder with near gibberish documentation.

I can't understand anything you post, I'm afraid. Enjoy it, but I can't participate. 

Fixed: Magister Yoda formulations, Laconicity optimisation, Grammar mistakes.
If the problem persists, tell me in more detail what is "unable to understand".

 

[miceblue]

Hm, speaking of 5.1 systems, how does a stereo headphone playback a 5.1 song? I obtained a few tracks, legally, for free from here:
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

Comparing a 5.1 song to a stereo sound sounds a little different to me with stereo headphones, but nothing too drastic.

 

[darinf]

Hm, speaking of 5.1 systems, how does a stereo headphone playback a 5.1 song? I obtained a few tracks, legally, for free from here:
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

Comparing a 5.1 song to a stereo sound sounds a little different to me with stereo headphones, but nothing too drastic.

I assume those clips are meant for people with a 5.1 speaker system to compare. With two channel output like headphones, you probably wouldn't hear any difference since you are probably only listening to the L and R channels of a 5.1 file.
 
Or I use this to listen to the 5.1 files from that site with headphones: http://www.head-fi.org/t/689299/out-of-your-head-new-virtual-surround-simulator

 

[MygpuK]

I assume those clips are meant for people with a 5.1 speaker system to compare. With two channel output like headphones, you probably wouldn't hear any difference since you are probably only listening to the L and R channels of a 5.1 file.

Or I use this to listen to the 5.1 files from that site with headphones.

A PERFECT ANSWER!
Speaking as a scientist:
Stereo CAN NOT create 3D sound because it has objectively 2 points of sound source. in the 3D system (system because the EAR know what 3D is, tested, proven).
So, to "feel true 5.1 music" you shall do:
a) Find it.
b) Compare to 5.1 true high-end.

5.1 ONLY and thus true high-end is:
Roccat Kave 5.1 (60$)
Objectively, IDEAL for Video_perception(dvd&up quality)&Gaming

 

[Joe Bloggs]

A PERFECT ANSWER!
Speaking as a scientist:
Stereo CAN NOT create 3D sound because it has objectively 2 points of sound source. in the 3D system (system because the EAR know what 3D is, tested, proven).
So, to "feel true 5.1 music" you shall do:
a) Find it.
b) Compare to 5.1 true high-end.

5.1 ONLY and thus true high-end is:
Roccat Kave 5.1 (60$)
Objectively, IDEAL for Video_perception(dvd&up quality)&Gaming

'fraid I don't agree with you there. It's pretty much impossible to make "true" 5.1 headphones (with, what, 3 speakers on each side and a shaker?) with any sort of quality on each driver--not to mention that the resulting soundstage still won't be anything like a true 5.1 speaker system. HRTF virtualization using custom measured HRTFs, e.g. Smyth Realiser, using quality standard single driver headphones, is where it's at.

 

[MygpuK]

'fraid I don't agree with you there. It's pretty much impossible to make "true" 5.1 headphones (with, what, 3 speakers on each side and a shaker?) with any sort of quality on each driver--not to mention that the resulting soundstage still won't be anything like a true 5.1 speaker system. HRTF virtualization using custom measured HRTFs, e.g. Smyth Realiser, using quality standard single driver headphones, is where it's at.

Now that's a perfect criticizing.
I agree. For me, true 5.1 headphones HAVE SENSE, because closed headphones mean "somewhat isolating".

I'm listening music THE LOUD WAY
So, I don't wish bothering my neighbours.

 

[bigshot]

Fixed: Magister Yoda formulations, Laconicity optimisation, Grammar mistakes.
If the problem persists, tell me in more detail what is "unable to understand".

 
I already told you. You aren't organizing your thoughts so other people can follow them. It has nothing to do with grammar or language. Your posts are a chore to decipher, so I don't.

 

[krismusic]

I already told you. You aren't organizing your thoughts so other people can follow them. It has nothing to do with grammar or language. Your posts are a chore to decipher, so I don't.

I'm afraid I agree. Either language barrier or a very incoherent mind. Or both!

 

[xnor]

Oh dear...one of my HD albums.

I should get the CD equivalent of the album and see how the mastering is on that.

 
Unfortunately, HD doesn't mean anything in terms of sound quality. It can be mastered better, but doesn't have to be.
When the mastering engineer gets a messed up mix to begin with ...
 

Hm, speaking of 5.1 systems, how does a stereo headphone playback a 5.1 song?

It doesn't. The 5.1 will be mixed down to 2.0 for playback on a stereo headphone.

 

[miceblue]

Yeah, I meant HD as in the 24/48 album from HD Tracks. XD

Interesting to know about downmixing. That being said, what does the downmixing? The DAC, or the software playing the music?


[rule]
Why is it that people claim that listening to planar magnetic headphones from speaker taps magically transforms the sound quality? I don't even know what speaker taps are. >_>