Zemo
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Yup! I got 'em both right here! Special thanks to Thaddy for loanin' me his beloved ety's! time for busines!!
COMFORT
So, I don't have the flange tips or whatever, just the foamies for the etys, so the flange tips may be different (XP can comment?). The Etys took a couple tries to get seated correctly and deep enough, but once their in, they're in. I wouldn't exactly call these comfortable....my ears get used to it, but putting 'em in and taking 'em out can be downright painful! and for some reason my right ear doesn't like the etys as much as my left does...slides right in on the left, but the right doesn't let 'em go in very far at all. As far as the shure's they're MUCH more comfy. They arn't designed to go into your ear canal like the Ety's, but rather, make a seal around the opening of your ear canal. This is quite a bit more comfy, and, given the right tips, it feels great. Of course, haveing something actually in your ear isn't going to feel as good as full sized cans.
Ety - 3/10
Shure - 7/10
ISOLATION
The Etys are freakin' earplugs! need I say more? The Shure's are similar, but, because they don't go as deep, don't seal as well.
Ety - 11/10
Shure - 10/10
The rest of the tests are conducted using the samples in my "how to listen" guide, found here: http://forums.fix-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=431. Each aspect of sound that is exemplified by each piece is scored below!
Resolution
The Etys are amazing...simply amazing...this makes sense though. Air acts as a filter, cutting out some high frequencies...place the drivers a couple millimeters from your eardrums and you get amazing high end! Decays are delicate and linger in the air, each little pluck of the strings are articulate and detailed, shaker is very realistic and unique...even the shaker's reverb off the studio walls is clearly audible. This song has an amazing acoustic bass sound to it, but....well...that's a discussion for another section...The Shure's resolution isn't up to the level of the Ety's, but still VERY good. Again, each pluck of the bass is distinct. The hammer's in the piano are audible as they strike the strings. The shakes of the shaker arn't as distinct as the Ety's, but still very clear and very obvious.
Ety-10/10
Shure - 9.5/10
Depth
This could be largely due to the fact that the ety's bypass all of the natural distortions caused by the shape for your head/ears, but they don't seem to have the depth and spatialization of other cans/speakers. Depth is still apperent, but it doesn't sound as realistic and "deep"...The shure's were a bit surprising in this area. Maybe due to the full and round sound they give, or maybe due to the fact that they allow the sound to interact with your ear canal....at any rate, the trumpet in this track sounds deeper, and more realistic.
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 8/10
atmosphere
The ety's lack some bass range, and a bit of the midrange (actually, if you look at the frequency response graph, they're nearly flat through this range, but people are just less sensative to that range, so it seems softer than it is...). This lack of low end makes the atmosphere and ambience of the reocrding sound somewhat sterile and anemic. I can see myself growing acustomed to this bass and really enjoying the fact that it's more balanced and defined, but I can't but want more...I can' be drawn into the music as much as i'd like. The shures show a different story. they have an amazingly full and robust sound for such little devices. Very lush and round. I can easily be drawn into the music more. I would like better spatialization, so I can actually hear the environment around me, but that ain't gonna happen.
Ety - 7/10
Shure - 9/10
midrange purity
The ety's arn't doing it for me....I'm listing to this very full, chesty, reverberant and meaty voice, and the ety's clean it up, lighten the low end....not enough meat...sounds almost like a floating head singing music. turning it up too loud helps, but it's not like I'd like it to be! The shure's again, with their full and round low-end, and warm midrange, allow you to hear Livingston Taylor's body contribute to his sound. A good experience, lots of meat!
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 9/10
Naturalness
The ety's sound pretty good here...very natural...the enhanced detail and resolution with these allows me to quite easily pick out the individual sounds and effects, allowing each to sound as detailed and realistic as possible. The shure's also sound quite natural, but, due to the rolled off high end, instruments and sounds don't sound quite as distinct and individual.
Ety - 9/10
Shure - 8/10
transparency
The lack of soundstaging of the etys (again, probably because the elimination of natural distortions) confines the soundstage to a more narrow place, muddying up this very spacious and transparent sounding recording. It's still easy to pick out individual voices, due to the hightened detail and resolution, but I wish there were more space! The same is true of the Shure's. They have a wider soundstage, yet a high end that isn't as crisp.
Ety - 8/10
Shure - 8/10
presence
The etys give an awesome performance here! The click of the keys, the slapback off the studio walls, the tiny little sax nuances (I'm a sax player, we pick up on these things!)...the performance sounds VERY realistic and alive! The Shure's also...they respond quite well to the tiny nuances in the playing, yet take off some of the edge.
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 10/10
visceral impact
Well....with the etys, there is none! I can tell it would be there...I mean, I can HEAR the bass...it's just not as present and upfront as I'd like it! This track is pretty exciting, and without the driving force of the bass guitar and the kick of the drums, it loses some of that excitement. The Shure's got that bass...this track thumps, bounces, rocks, and pops. I love it! I keep having to stop myself from trying to turn it up. The shure is about as "visceral" as you can get from something this tiny...
Ety - 5/10
Shure - 10/10
rhythm and pace
The bright high end and extended detail of these cans lend itself to a fairly exciting and involving listening experience, but again, the lack of bass takes away from the excitement. The bass in the Shures bring this track alive.
Ety - 8/10
Shure - 9.5/10
Focus
Quite good...I thought the lack of soundstaging in the ety might take away from the level of focus, but this was not the case. Again, the hightened detail and resoltuion allows for a very clear image of the instruments, and gives a very definite and crisp seperation of one instrument from another. The shure's also were very focused, yet maybe not as much as the Ety's. It's hard to match that level of resolution!
Ety - 9/10
Shure - 8/10
holographic imaging
Again, going back to the soundstaging in the ety, this is lacking...not much more to say...The shure's perform better, yet soundstaging is still lacking.
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 7/10
transients
Well, not surprisingly, the Ety's handle transients VERY well...then again, how could it be to move a driver that's only a few millimeters quickly? I highly doubt there's ANY music out there that could throw transients faster than ety's could handle them. The same is true of the Shure's. They respond VERY fast, and if I didn't have the ety's to compare them to, I'd say they're the best I've ever heard!
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 9.5/10
bass resonance
This surprised me a little....I was expecting there to be none in the Etys, after listening to the other tracks...but when the bass is all that is going, it sounds very realistic! Not terribly full and visceral, but it's definetly there, and I can definetly hear the body of the bass resonating with each pluck of the string. I really wish I could feel it though! That's where the Shures step in. If I ddin't know any better, I'd say the bass in this track was rattling my chest. Very full and robust, while mainting a rich texture and high level of resolution.
Ety - 7/10
Shure - 10/10
dynamics
stunning..the ety's handle loud and soft VERY well, allowing the dynamic content of the music to really come through. The shures also respond to the music well, allowing the very punchy sound to be all that it should be. I couldn't help but flinch with the punches at the end of this track!
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 10.5/10
other junk
The Ety's have a VERY microphonic cable, which is hard to deal with at times. even tucking it under the shirt still allowed enough microphonics to be annoying. The shure's over the ear design, and softer cable cuts down on microphonics by a LOT, which I appruciate. For the shure's the "memory fit cable" was horrible. I had to constantly re adjust it, and it never sat flat. it always made the cable come off of the back of my ears at a funky angle But, a quick snip snip, and that was all fixed! Hehe....took me all of half hour before I modded the suckers...The Ety's take some time to roll, stick in, and hold, where as the shure's take almost no time at all to pop into place. The shure's are VERY sensative, whereas the Ety's are not. A volume setting of 20 on the Etys is like a volume setting of 11 on the shures. I tried EQ settings with both, and found that I could make the bass more present on the ety's, but it tended to sound sloppy or loose, and rather unenjoyable. EQing the high end of the shures up a bit helps a lot, and makes these more enjoyable!
Also, the build quality of the shure's seems higher. The driver housings are a bit harder material, and the cable is thicker, and more sturdy feeling, yet more flexable.
COMFORT
So, I don't have the flange tips or whatever, just the foamies for the etys, so the flange tips may be different (XP can comment?). The Etys took a couple tries to get seated correctly and deep enough, but once their in, they're in. I wouldn't exactly call these comfortable....my ears get used to it, but putting 'em in and taking 'em out can be downright painful! and for some reason my right ear doesn't like the etys as much as my left does...slides right in on the left, but the right doesn't let 'em go in very far at all. As far as the shure's they're MUCH more comfy. They arn't designed to go into your ear canal like the Ety's, but rather, make a seal around the opening of your ear canal. This is quite a bit more comfy, and, given the right tips, it feels great. Of course, haveing something actually in your ear isn't going to feel as good as full sized cans.
Ety - 3/10
Shure - 7/10
ISOLATION
The Etys are freakin' earplugs! need I say more? The Shure's are similar, but, because they don't go as deep, don't seal as well.
Ety - 11/10
Shure - 10/10
The rest of the tests are conducted using the samples in my "how to listen" guide, found here: http://forums.fix-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=431. Each aspect of sound that is exemplified by each piece is scored below!
Resolution
The Etys are amazing...simply amazing...this makes sense though. Air acts as a filter, cutting out some high frequencies...place the drivers a couple millimeters from your eardrums and you get amazing high end! Decays are delicate and linger in the air, each little pluck of the strings are articulate and detailed, shaker is very realistic and unique...even the shaker's reverb off the studio walls is clearly audible. This song has an amazing acoustic bass sound to it, but....well...that's a discussion for another section...The Shure's resolution isn't up to the level of the Ety's, but still VERY good. Again, each pluck of the bass is distinct. The hammer's in the piano are audible as they strike the strings. The shakes of the shaker arn't as distinct as the Ety's, but still very clear and very obvious.
Ety-10/10
Shure - 9.5/10
Depth
This could be largely due to the fact that the ety's bypass all of the natural distortions caused by the shape for your head/ears, but they don't seem to have the depth and spatialization of other cans/speakers. Depth is still apperent, but it doesn't sound as realistic and "deep"...The shure's were a bit surprising in this area. Maybe due to the full and round sound they give, or maybe due to the fact that they allow the sound to interact with your ear canal....at any rate, the trumpet in this track sounds deeper, and more realistic.
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 8/10
atmosphere
The ety's lack some bass range, and a bit of the midrange (actually, if you look at the frequency response graph, they're nearly flat through this range, but people are just less sensative to that range, so it seems softer than it is...). This lack of low end makes the atmosphere and ambience of the reocrding sound somewhat sterile and anemic. I can see myself growing acustomed to this bass and really enjoying the fact that it's more balanced and defined, but I can't but want more...I can' be drawn into the music as much as i'd like. The shures show a different story. they have an amazingly full and robust sound for such little devices. Very lush and round. I can easily be drawn into the music more. I would like better spatialization, so I can actually hear the environment around me, but that ain't gonna happen.
Ety - 7/10
Shure - 9/10
midrange purity
The ety's arn't doing it for me....I'm listing to this very full, chesty, reverberant and meaty voice, and the ety's clean it up, lighten the low end....not enough meat...sounds almost like a floating head singing music. turning it up too loud helps, but it's not like I'd like it to be! The shure's again, with their full and round low-end, and warm midrange, allow you to hear Livingston Taylor's body contribute to his sound. A good experience, lots of meat!
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 9/10
Naturalness
The ety's sound pretty good here...very natural...the enhanced detail and resolution with these allows me to quite easily pick out the individual sounds and effects, allowing each to sound as detailed and realistic as possible. The shure's also sound quite natural, but, due to the rolled off high end, instruments and sounds don't sound quite as distinct and individual.
Ety - 9/10
Shure - 8/10
transparency
The lack of soundstaging of the etys (again, probably because the elimination of natural distortions) confines the soundstage to a more narrow place, muddying up this very spacious and transparent sounding recording. It's still easy to pick out individual voices, due to the hightened detail and resolution, but I wish there were more space! The same is true of the Shure's. They have a wider soundstage, yet a high end that isn't as crisp.
Ety - 8/10
Shure - 8/10
presence
The etys give an awesome performance here! The click of the keys, the slapback off the studio walls, the tiny little sax nuances (I'm a sax player, we pick up on these things!)...the performance sounds VERY realistic and alive! The Shure's also...they respond quite well to the tiny nuances in the playing, yet take off some of the edge.
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 10/10
visceral impact
Well....with the etys, there is none! I can tell it would be there...I mean, I can HEAR the bass...it's just not as present and upfront as I'd like it! This track is pretty exciting, and without the driving force of the bass guitar and the kick of the drums, it loses some of that excitement. The Shure's got that bass...this track thumps, bounces, rocks, and pops. I love it! I keep having to stop myself from trying to turn it up. The shure is about as "visceral" as you can get from something this tiny...
Ety - 5/10
Shure - 10/10
rhythm and pace
The bright high end and extended detail of these cans lend itself to a fairly exciting and involving listening experience, but again, the lack of bass takes away from the excitement. The bass in the Shures bring this track alive.
Ety - 8/10
Shure - 9.5/10
Focus
Quite good...I thought the lack of soundstaging in the ety might take away from the level of focus, but this was not the case. Again, the hightened detail and resoltuion allows for a very clear image of the instruments, and gives a very definite and crisp seperation of one instrument from another. The shure's also were very focused, yet maybe not as much as the Ety's. It's hard to match that level of resolution!
Ety - 9/10
Shure - 8/10
holographic imaging
Again, going back to the soundstaging in the ety, this is lacking...not much more to say...The shure's perform better, yet soundstaging is still lacking.
Ety - 6/10
Shure - 7/10
transients
Well, not surprisingly, the Ety's handle transients VERY well...then again, how could it be to move a driver that's only a few millimeters quickly? I highly doubt there's ANY music out there that could throw transients faster than ety's could handle them. The same is true of the Shure's. They respond VERY fast, and if I didn't have the ety's to compare them to, I'd say they're the best I've ever heard!
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 9.5/10
bass resonance
This surprised me a little....I was expecting there to be none in the Etys, after listening to the other tracks...but when the bass is all that is going, it sounds very realistic! Not terribly full and visceral, but it's definetly there, and I can definetly hear the body of the bass resonating with each pluck of the string. I really wish I could feel it though! That's where the Shures step in. If I ddin't know any better, I'd say the bass in this track was rattling my chest. Very full and robust, while mainting a rich texture and high level of resolution.
Ety - 7/10
Shure - 10/10
dynamics
stunning..the ety's handle loud and soft VERY well, allowing the dynamic content of the music to really come through. The shures also respond to the music well, allowing the very punchy sound to be all that it should be. I couldn't help but flinch with the punches at the end of this track!
Ety - 10/10
Shure - 10.5/10
other junk
The Ety's have a VERY microphonic cable, which is hard to deal with at times. even tucking it under the shirt still allowed enough microphonics to be annoying. The shure's over the ear design, and softer cable cuts down on microphonics by a LOT, which I appruciate. For the shure's the "memory fit cable" was horrible. I had to constantly re adjust it, and it never sat flat. it always made the cable come off of the back of my ears at a funky angle But, a quick snip snip, and that was all fixed! Hehe....took me all of half hour before I modded the suckers...The Ety's take some time to roll, stick in, and hold, where as the shure's take almost no time at all to pop into place. The shure's are VERY sensative, whereas the Ety's are not. A volume setting of 20 on the Etys is like a volume setting of 11 on the shures. I tried EQ settings with both, and found that I could make the bass more present on the ety's, but it tended to sound sloppy or loose, and rather unenjoyable. EQing the high end of the shures up a bit helps a lot, and makes these more enjoyable!
Also, the build quality of the shure's seems higher. The driver housings are a bit harder material, and the cable is thicker, and more sturdy feeling, yet more flexable.