Should I keep Vista or reinstall XP?
Jul 14, 2007 at 2:29 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 33

chesebert

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ok..now that I have gotten my new laptop. I am starting to having this questions of to vista or not to vista.

The laptop preconfigured with Vista on there. Being stupid at 12AM in the morning, I ordered the smallest/slowest HD they offered (60G/5400rpm), so I got another drive (100G/7200rpm) to replace the oem one. Now I am at a cross road, I can either populate the new HD with the factory default content (vista), or reinstall winxp. (I still have not decided whether I want to keep the oem drive or not)

Do you hate vista? like xp? give me your thoughts!
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 2:36 AM Post #3 of 33
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If it came with vista pre-installed, use it.

Chances are XP won't work.



well when I configured the machine, I could have gotten the xp pro, but choose vista because I heard it looks cooler
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Jul 14, 2007 at 2:41 AM Post #5 of 33
I'm using vista right now.

Not everything is compatible with it.. yet.

and I have had more problems with vista in 1 day than I had with XP for a couple years.

But i'm too lazy to put xp on here after I already got settled in with vista. In a year vista should have most of the problems ironed out, but it is still new.

I'd say give vista a run and if you don't like switch over to XP pro sp2.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 2:56 AM Post #6 of 33
any comments on what I should do with the left over HD? its SATA so I can't use it any of my other laptops.

1) keep it and use it as backup for catastrophic HD failures
2) sell it
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 3:09 AM Post #7 of 33
I would install XP if you can. I can't stand using Vista. I've used it multiple times when setting up laptops at Office Depot and it's almost impossible to use. It reminds me too much of the Mac interface where everything is hidden in some menu or tucked away somewhere so the computer is rendered essentially fool-proof to typical idiots who just want a clean interface that looks pretty, but at the same time useless to the advanced user. They can't even call it properties anymore, it's now "Personalize". Give me a break. Also, the Vista computers require a lot more in terms of hardware. We no longer sell 512MB laptops because they can't run Vista successfully with all of the crap that Vista puts on your computer. I'll admit that it looks nicer than XP, but the fact is, I can't use it as well. It's definitely a departure from previous windows versions rather than the improvements that 95/98/ME/XP slowly built.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 3:09 AM Post #8 of 33
I tried vista for about two weeks before reinstalling XP pro. I too had more issues with Vista in a couple of weeks than I had had with XP in years. Glad I didn't pay for vista
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. Why fix it if it isn't broken? And I would probably keep the oem drive as a spare.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 4:05 AM Post #9 of 33
Well, the biggest problem with vista is UAC and its general handling of permissions. You may find you do a lot of right click and "run as administrator" -ing in vista. Apart from aero, there is little for the average user to appreciate, and xp is rock solid, a superb OS now that it is very mature.

I have vista installed alongside OS X on my macbook, it just makes switching between OS X and windows less of a shock to the senses, since vista has things like smoothly animated max/minimise windows included.

You have a new laptop, so its not such a problem, but vista is way too taxing on a computer for my liking. It *crawls* on a pentium m 1.86Ghz with 1GB ram. Crawls, on a machine that is no slouch even today.

In short, keep the vista license for when you feel left behind, and put xp on there for now, and get on with the more important computing hassle free.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 4:07 AM Post #10 of 33
Vista rots. Some problems I've encountered so far:

Foobar stops playing music after the screen saver goes up. It's oh so fun to try to listen to music while constantly toying with the mouse to make sure the music doesn't stop. I imagine there is an intuitive solution somewhere in the universe, but I doubt it can be found within Vista's settings.

Creative just released beta drivers for the EMU line. So far so good actually, but prior to that I had numerous problems running Media Player Classic... often a DVD would start up and I'd get crackling sounds. If I stopped or paused a movie partway through and then restarted I would also, without fail, get this crackling sound. I think the beta drivers solved this.

Many programs released as "Vista-compatible" are, in fact, not.

My DSL provider still hasn't released anything close to Vista-compatible software. Not a huge problem, I can set that stuff up manually. Unfortunately unless I'm running some kind of software that downloads something, and often times even if I am, my connection will fail when I go to work. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a perpetual connection that should be bringing in the goodies while I'm not home. The fun part: to get the connection going I must disable the connection and renable it manually. Every single day.

Vista is not intuitive. XP isn't exactly intuitive either, but with Vista all those settings you can access are not only randomly sprinkled all throughout the system, they are also buried under a "user-friendly" layer that's supposed to make it easier for idiots. All it really does is put settings and functionality a couple steps further away.

The view setting in all my folders changes randomly. Just about every time I open any folder. I actually started a thread about this. This handy feature has been a Windowism going back to 98 at least, but with Vista it's like Windows just took a potent dose of death crack.

Anytime I do anything my fan bumps up to high speed. It's like the tiniest little operation sets Vista off into a cascade of attempting to calculate a Mars landing for NASA. I hope they land safely.

That security feature that asks you to confirm every last execution is insane. Whoever thought of that one was probably in the middle of a divorce and dipping heavy into the booze. Yes, you can turn it off, but you get to see a security warning each and every time Vista loads if you do.

Any time you end-task an unresponsive program Vista takes it very personally. "Is everything okay? Did something go wrong? Do you want to tell us about it? Go ahead and cry, it's okay."

IE7 runs really slowly in Vista. I'm pretty sure only grandmas and office slaves are using it these days, so no biggie there.

If I'm using the computer when AVG goes to make an update Vista gets very discombobulated. For some reason AVG's update process then works in some mysterious background land and I need to visit this land to confirm operations that never actually execute even when I do. Fortunately I'm not usually using the computer when it updates.

Otherwise Vista is pretty darn good. I turned off most of the bells and whistles because, ya know, who cares?
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 4:10 AM Post #11 of 33
Vista is a mixed bag. Essentially, if you're not running a current-gen PC or notebook, I wouldn't recommend it. It's a system hog, doesn't offer many productivity features, and has really awkward and poorly-timed erros. Not to mention random BSOD re-boots. XP works fine.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 4:10 AM Post #12 of 33
I've been using XP for years, and I switched to Vista in March/April when I bought a Thinkpad that came loaded with Vista. On the whole, Vista isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I feel very comfortable using it. I have noticed that Vista/programs run under Vista crashes more than with XP, but with Vista they don't lock up in those crashes as much with XP. I have yet to get anything like a BSOD. I do wish it had better compatibility, though (there's some programs/applications that I like using that just don't run with Vista
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). If I had the option, I would go with XP.

I bought my Thinkpad from Staples and signed up for a program where they said that I could replace my Thinkpad with any other computer in store that costs the same or more (essentially turning it in for store credit) within 1 year. However, I'm not sure what I'm allowed to do on the computer that wouldn't void this warranty (I'm not sure if I can replace the OS and stuff; the Vista CD that was included was only an update CD and not a CD I could use to re-install Vista).

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Originally Posted by Superpredator /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Vista is not intuitive. XP isn't exactly intuitive either, but with Vista all those settings you can access are not only randomly sprinkled all throughout the system, they are also buried under a "user-friendly" layer that's supposed to make it easier for idiots. All it really does is put settings and functionality a couple steps further away.

Anytime I do anything my fan bumps up to high speed. It's like the tiniest little operation sets Vista off into a cascade of attempting to calculate a Mars landing for NASA. I hope they land safely.

That security feature that asks you to confirm every last execution is insane. Whoever thought of that one was probably in the middle of a divorce and dipping heavy into the booze. Yes, you can turn it off, but you get to see a security warning each and every time Vista loads if you do.

Any time you end-task an unresponsive program Vista takes it very personally. "Is everything okay? Did something go wrong? Do you want to tell us about it? Go ahead and cry, it's okay."



Very true in my experience.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 5:00 AM Post #14 of 33
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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif
well when I configured the machine, I could have gotten the xp pro, but choose vista because I heard it looks cooler
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In that case, use XP.
 
Jul 14, 2007 at 5:05 AM Post #15 of 33
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Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif
any comments on what I should do with the left over HD? its SATA so I can't use it any of my other laptops.

1) keep it and use it as backup for catastrophic HD failures
2) sell it



Buy an enclosure for it and have a pocket drive!
 

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