Shellbrook Audio Hybrid Head Impressions

Jun 28, 2005 at 2:49 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

erikzen

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Drew from Shellbrook Audio lent me a Hybrid Head prototype for the NY Head-Fi meet on June 18. Unfortunately, I was not able to get it running properly for the meet due to the fact that the bias had to be adjusted and being a tube neophyte, I had no idea of what to do to get rid of the distortion I was hearing. Once I got in touch with Drew he told me how to adjust the bias and I've been listening to the amp for the past week and a half. I used a volt meter and set it to 12 volts.

Keep in mind that the amp he sent me is a prototype, but according to Drew the components are the same as the production model. This amp differs only in the casing, but because of that I am not going to comment on the aesthetics or build quality. There is nothing wrong with this amp - actually, it's quite interesting as it has wood panels on the top and sides - it's just not the same casing Shellbrook currently sells. You will get a better idea of the look and feel of the amp from the website.

I had ideas of writing a full length review but I just don't have the time right now to finish one and if I don't write something now, I'll probably never do it. I'll try to get right to the point.

Equipment:

SlimX IMP-550
Radio Shack optical cable
HeadRoom Overture DAC
Shellbrook Audio Hybrid Head (GE 12FK6 tubes)
Beyerdynamic DT 931
ATH-EW9
HD 25-1 with HeadPhile replacement cable
Ray Samuels XP-7 (AD797 opamps) - for comparison

Music:

The Soul Cages - Sting
Jazz at the Pawn Shop - Various Artists
Wandering Spirit - Mick Jagger
Handel's "Messiah" - Altanta Symphony Orchestra and Chamber Chorus
Chill Brazil 2 - Various Artists
Bitches Brew - Miles Davis
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine

Sound impressions:

Really impactful bass. Some say the DT 931 lacks bass. Not with this combination. At times, it almost felt like I could feel the bass throughout my body. I sometimes use a 120 ohm adapter with the DT 931 to get some more bass. The adapter did nothing to improve the sound with this amp. Although bass was more abundant it did not at all seem sloppy or even "bloomy".

Smooth midrange. Electric guitars were almost liquid, although some sounded better than others. Guitars on Rage Against the Machine sounded awesome. Guitar on Bitches Brew sounded a bit too dirty but that may just be a function of the tube amplifier being used by John McLaughlin (I have no idea what kind of equipment either guitar player uses). Choruses on Messiah were spacious and detailed.

Smooth but slightly grainy treble. This amp seemed to have very good synergy with the DT 931 on the high end. The DT 931 can sound bright and sometimes harsh on complex passages with lots of highs, especially rock music with lots of cymbals. With this amp I never really felt like the highs were at all fatiguing or harsh. However, it did seem to take away some of the detail. I'm calling this grainy but I'm not sure that's the right term. What it sounds like to me is the harmonic distortion from the tubes creating a warmer mellower sound at the expense of some extreme detail. Which is fine with me because I have always found the DT 931 to be on the "hyper detailed" side. The tradeoff is well worth it in this case.

Bottom Line:
This seems like an affordable home amp that is on par with something like the Gilmore Lite (I demoed that amp too) and while I really like the Gilmore, this gives a different sound. I don't know anything about tube amps but I'm assuming that's what gives the amp some of its unique sound characteristics. I don't want to say the sound is "warm", "mellow" or "rolled off" because there is still plenty of high frequency information and lots of detail, but there is something smooth about this amp. It is particularly synergistic with the DT 931 - so much so that I am now rethinking my decision to get rid of it in favor of something like the HD595. Now, if only I can somehow justify having another amp around just for the DT 931!
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 4:10 AM Post #2 of 15
Hybrid from Drew, now thats interesting. Based on your impressions, it sounds like a very worthy amp. Any ideas on how much one of these puppies would cost?
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 4:14 AM Post #3 of 15
Interesting report, Erik! Thanks. I was wondering what your experience was.

There seems to be an increasing number of hyrid amps developing as of late ... a trend?. It would really be interesting if we could assemble some of then for a comparative study of their different characteristics. I don't know if that's easily accomplished, but it seems like a worthy notion.

Now you must learn more and more about the world of tubes -- triodes -- valves -- cash vacuums! You've entered the realm of Lan and bozebuttons and.......

Ooops... I've got to find time to write up the portables first... where's my clone!?!

... of course I'm hoping to hear the AE-1 and Hornet in that context -- soon.
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Jun 28, 2005 at 4:23 AM Post #4 of 15
You can read more about the amp at the Shellbrook site here.

Drew also posted something about it at ipod studio here

I'd definitely like the opportunity to compare this amp to other hybrids, especially the new HeadRoom hybrid. This type of amp seems right up my alley, but blows away my idea of eventually pairing down to one amp that can pull double duty - home and portable.
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 4:34 AM Post #5 of 15
Ah! I thought the production unit looked like the Ascent. It is kind of an Ascent with tubes sticking up.

I am curious to hear it.
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 3:06 AM Post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Romanee
There seems to be an increasing number of hyrid amps developing as of late ... a trend?. It would really be interesting if we could assemble some of then for a comparative study of their different characteristics. I don't know if that's easily accomplished, but it seems like a worthy notion.


As near as I can figure out, Shellbrook is the only company offering this amp commercially right now. HeadRoom will be coming out with their version of the amp soon, as well. There are a bunch of people building this amp in the DIY forum where there was a group buy of the board, as well as links to schematics, instructions and parts lists. Perhaps, some of them will be selling their amps once they're complete. Do I smell a flavor of the month in the making?
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 7:15 AM Post #7 of 15
Quote:

Originally Posted by erikzen
As near as I can figure out, Shellbrook is the only company offering this amp commercially right now. HeadRoom will be coming out with their version of the amp soon, as well. There are a bunch of people building this amp in the DIY forum where there was a group buy of the board, as well as links to schematics, instructions and parts lists. Perhaps, some of them will be selling their amps once they're complete. Do I smell a flavor of the month in the making?


So, then ... is the Millet design is the only hybrid head amp design in existence?
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 12:20 PM Post #8 of 15
Quote:

Originally Posted by Romanee
So, then ... is the Millet design is the only hybrid head amp design in existence?


Not exactly. What I'm saying is the Millet design seems to be the one in favor in the DIY community right now. I don't know enough to know if there are other hybrid designs out there.
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 12:24 PM Post #9 of 15
Quote:

Originally Posted by Romanee
So, then ... is the Millet design is the only hybrid head amp design in existence?


Absolutely not.

As mentioned Headroom also developed a low-voltage hybrid amp with Pete Millett. Those are the only two commercially available examples of that amp that I'm aware of. However, I suspect that there are quite a few others that I just don't know about.

In terms of "designs" there are certainly a number of hybrid headamps out there.

HTH,

Nate
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 12:26 PM Post #10 of 15
Erikzen were you using an Elpac power supply?

Nice review btw, I liked the different mix of music you used
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Jun 29, 2005 at 12:36 PM Post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Thaddy
Erikzen were you using an Elpac power supply?

Nice review btw, I liked the different mix of music you used
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Yes, it's the Elpac that Drew shipped with the amp - FW1818. It has a rated output of 18V.

As far as the music goes, the amp performed so well after listening to the first disk, I just had to keep throwing new music at it.
 
Nov 5, 2005 at 7:05 AM Post #12 of 15
I was really interested in this amp...but after reading about the builder/seller....NO WAY!!
 
Nov 5, 2005 at 7:29 AM Post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by VR6ofpain
I was really interested in this amp...but after reading about the builder/seller....NO WAY!!


You could always buy a PCB and build it yourself...

-Patrick
 
Nov 5, 2005 at 7:38 AM Post #14 of 15
Quote:

Originally Posted by Romanee
So, then ... is the Millet design is the only hybrid head amp design in existence?


Not at all, there are plenty of others, such as the fa-schmidt's YAHA and Sijosae's Multi-hybrid, both published at the DIY forum of headwize.com. The Millett design has been greatly popularized by the availability of PCBs for the DIYer, which made building the amp easy and neat. All these are DIY-oriented also low-voltage designs and therefore very safe.

And there are yet other commercial products utilizing hybrid topologies. Some using high voltage tubes, some using IC output buffers whereas others use MOSFETs, etc.
 
Nov 5, 2005 at 3:20 PM Post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by VR6ofpain
I was really interested in this amp...but after reading about the builder/seller....NO WAY!!


What value are you adding to this thread with this comment? We are talking about the sound of the amp, not seller customer service.
 

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