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Shanling M0 - Nano size, touch screen, LDAC & aptX BT, USB DAC/transport and ESS Sabre ES9218P, FW 3.2

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Shanling, Mar 16, 2018.
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  1. Zachik
    Hey!! Don't discourage Shanling from implementing audiobooks / podcasts :wink:
     
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  2. Scalpos
    Well, same here... I just received my ordered M0. When the device is powered on, I'm welcome with a white blank screen. I followed suggested actions with no result. I just contacted the seller (Cafago, seems to be related to Tomtop).

    I notice too the screen is uneven, quite similar to LCD panel clouding issue: clearer and darker zones. Not easy to have nice shots highlighting this:
    IMG_20190107_134231_cr.jpg
    IMG_20190107_134231_cr_mod.jpg

    And finally, the finish of the frame surrounding the screen is not regular. It's mostly noticeable on following shot (when displayed at full size) on top, right and left sides:
    IMG_20190107_132522_cr_red.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
  3. mrarroyo Contributor
    Hi everyone, it has been quite a few years since I visit and post on Head Fi. Heck I may be posting in the wrong place for all I know. Basically I found my self in need of either replacing the battery of an old iPod version 5.5 which I had modified by installing a 240 GB hard drive ages ago or buying a new cheap DAP. Thus I ended getting the Shanling MO from Amazon and I have used it for the last 12 or so hours.

    I loaded the unit with about 215 GB of AAC files on a 400 GB micro sd card. The process would have been a lot easier for an "old fart" (me) if the instruction booklet had been more detailed or if Shanling had posted better instruction in their site. Neither of these is available so I had to wing it. Luckily for me and my wallet I did not break anything! :)

    So far I have been listening using an Etymotic HF3, Westone 2, and Creative Aurvana Live. Yes, all three are old headphones but as I have stated earlier I have been away for quite a while. The music has been in apple loses files and by artists: Oleta Adams, Acoustic Alchemy, and Paul Hardcastle. My first impression is the music is flat without depth, there is lack of punch on the lower register and the bass is muddled, highs are rolled off and the soundstage is narrow with little depth.

    Perhaps the unit will open up with more burn in but for now this is an entry level unit that is relatively inexpensive, able to play multiple file formats, and with the ability for relative large libraries.

    FYI, the firmware on the M0 is 2.3 and the battery started blinking red after only 7 hours of use.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
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  4. _daRK
    IMHO it would be more logical using a volume on headphones side with maximum volume on M0. Just because to give more juice from Shanling. BUT Sony XM3 has its own DAC and on both sides are only digital signals so in the end it won't make any difference which volume do you use.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
  5. Natsume
    @Shanling

    First of all, thank you Shanling for this nice little DAP. It's a worthy successor of my beloved Sansa Clip Zip (+ Rockbox). Your presence here in the community is also great and highly appreciated.

    However, I have to report some bugs (FW 2.2):

    1. Dots in folder name

    I can confirm this. It happened with my "T.S.O.L." folder. The M0 wasn't able to read it and refused to open the folder showing an error message. After deleting all the dots it worked fine.


    2. Diacritical marks

    This is a huge letdown mostly for european users of the M0. Many letters with diacritics in the title and artist tags are displayed incorrectly and replaced with chinese characters (tested file types: MP3 and FLAC). There seems to be no pattern. I had different results even with different tracks of one album - sometimes the diacritical marks appear sometimes not. Maybe it's a buggy Vorbis comment or UTF-8 support?

    I am able to reproduce the following errors:

    a. Spanish letters:
    - "ñ" (lowercase "n" with tilde): always
    - "í" (lowercase "i" with acute accent): sometimes, especially before "n" and "a"

    b. Portuguese letters:
    - "ã" (lowercase "a" with tilde"): before "o"

    c. Germanic umlauts:
    - "ä"/"Ä" (lowercase/uppercase "a" with combining diaeresis): almost always
    - "ö"/"Ö" (lowercase/uppercase "o" with combining diaeresis): almost always
    - "ü"/"Ü" (lowercase/uppercase "u" with combining diaeresis): almost always

    d. Diacritics used in "Scandinavian" languages (Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish)
    - "å"/"Å" (lowercase/uppercase "a" with overring): always

    3. Not really a bug but also quite annoying: Scrolling through folders is blocked while changing the volume. This is counterintuitive.
     
  6. technobear
    The battery gauge is not accurate. Ignore it.

    Have you seen the Advanced User Manual (link on first page of this thread)?
     
  7. mrarroyo Contributor
    Thanks, good to know about the battery indicator and thanks for the advance user's manual information.
     
  8. Laazyboy
    Thanks for your response. I deleted the 3 albums, updated, re-added, updated, and am getting the same error. Yes I am able to play the files on the player, just not see the album view of each album. No special characters, just apostrophes. Ends in full stop
     
  9. Shanling
    MTouch system is created by Chinese team and our main market is China, so that was starting point for the system. I'm trying my best to report all your wishes and my experience to the software team and get it to the system.

    Unfortunately we are neither big and rich company or mainly software company, so doing our best.

    1. Well, folders should never end with period, that's something even Windows don't fully support

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/FileIO/naming-a-file

    Honestly, I wasn't even able to create such file on my Windows computer to test it out.

    I assume such folder was created automatically based on the tag. My advice would be to change the name to correct this error.

    2. I reported this long time ago, was told they need to figure it out with fonts(apparently some problems with fonts for both Asian and European languages?)

    3. Will check why it's like this and if it can be changed.
     
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  10. Shanling
    As I said previously, please DM me such file to figure out this error.
     
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  11. fish1050
    That is true but when you responded saying Shanling would try to implement them you opened yourself up to people asking when? Perhaps in the future don't say anything and people won't bug you constantly and then if you do add the features then you can surprise us and we will all be happy instead of frustrated at the delays and lack of updates. :) In all fairness features like replaygain are available on DAP's from competing manufacturers like Cayin and Fiio. So I don't see why you wouldn't expect us to want this feature sooner rather than later. If you had said no to replaygain then I would have looked at another DAP.

    But you didn't and I bought the M0 in good faith that replaygain would be added. So people will continue to ask about these features until you provide some information on if or when. It is just the nature of consumers to want what they ask for.
     
  12. haoyuan
    In all fairness Shanling has been very vocal about their progress and has been quite transparent in their progress. I own TOTL Fiio X7ii and there are still tons of bugs. The update promised back in Oct is still not released, and their thread is pretty much dead. Fiio CS said it clear, straight and to the point in one of their posts, that whatever you get after the fact is all gravy, that you bought into the system knowing what it can do. In this case Shanling does the same, except they're actively communicating with us.
     
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  13. fish1050
    I guess everyone's expectations are different and in all fairness Fiio has had their problems with every DAP they release. So it should be no surprise at this point when Fiio doesn't follow through on updates on fixing their products, caveat emptor (buyer beware). When you buy a product from a company like Fiio that has this reputation then you shouldn't be surprised when you end up a victim of it yourself. I have owned Fiio DAP's and never will again, they simply release DAP's as fast as they can to make people forget about the failures of previous models. Why fix the issues on an existing product when you can simply release a new model? At least that seems to be Fiio's motto
     
  14. Shanling
    New armband leather case for M0 is ready and shipping soon to our distributors!

    armband.jpg
     
    Shanling Have any question about our players? Just PM me or send me email. Stay updated on Shanling at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    https://www.facebook.com/Shanling-Audio-603230783166845/ https://twitter.com/ShanlingAudio https://www.instagram.com/shanlingaudio/ http://en.shanling.com/ frankie@shanling.com
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  15. greatwhite58
    The timeline question has been answered many times on here and the answer is still the same. I checked what features the MO had on it before I purchased it so to me any feature that is added afterwards is a bonus. If a feature is that important to you then I suggest to check the features before you buy and pick the one that has the features that you want. Adding a feature takes as long as it takes and if a feature is important to you then its got to be worth the wait.
     
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