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Shanling M0 - Nano size, touch screen, LDAC & aptX BT, USB DAC/transport and ESS Sabre ES9218P, FW 3.2

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Shanling, Mar 16, 2018.
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  1. Shanling
    First question, can you tell me, what cable are you using with M0? On previous models, we had some people using random cheap cables from Ebay, which resulted in less than ideal sound. I remember one case, where such cable made Mojo into super bass heavy device. Changing to Shanling L2 cable fixed it.

    Secondly, M0 is not running Android, so there are no errors of system that UAPP is trying to fix.

    Thirdly, EQ setting is not "still active", it only activates when you enable EQ.

    Also, now going more into audiophile side of thing, different transports can sound differently. But on that note, I don't think we were getting any reports of M0 sounding subpar and we have a lot of people using it with different DACs.

    So earpods works fine and just your SOny speaker is misbehaving?
    Can you tell us, which speakers exactly are you using? There are other users with M0 and Sony speakers and seems to be doing just fine.

    When using M0 as Bluetooth receiver, of course you can charge it with standard USB charger.
     
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  2. kwangomango
    Hi,

    I have used the same cable connecting mojo to m0 as I do to connect mojo to android phone. There is no fault with the cable.

    How can a transport possibly make any difference to sound quality if all it is doing is reading digital data from an SD card and sending it to a USB socket? How exactly?
    The ONY way it can change the sound is if that digital digital data is being manipulated somehow - resampled or converted.

    I am not saying the m0 sounds bad as a transport at all. It is just that a phone running UAPP sounds noticeably better because the data is sent bit perfect.
    Currently anyone using m0 as a transport would get better sound quality using an android phone and UAPP. I would really appreciate if you and your engineers would also compare with UAPP so you can hear the difference for yourselves.

    I would love to keep the m0 as it is a great size to pair with mojo but sound quality is obviously my priority.

    Thanks.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2018
  3. Duncan Moderator
    I’m using UAPP, and the M0 sounds markedly better than the handset... is it maybe that you just don’t like the special sauce in the SQ of the M0?
     
  4. kwangomango
    I am talking about using m0 as a transport connected to an external DAC. The headphones would be connected to the DAC not the m0.
     
  5. Vimtoman
    Maybe they just forgot the logo or maybe they cant show the logo?
    Is the LDAC logo suppose to be on the M0 screen?
     
  6. Shanling
    Any time M0 BT is connected properly and is streaming music to headphones/speakers, there is logo of used codec displayed in top corner next to battery.
     
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  7. Vimtoman
    OK then mine only shows the Bluetooth icon not an LDAC one using a Sony SRS-X11.
    I've tried all LDAC settings.

    Maybe the SRS-X11 isnt LDAC? :) Just checking.....

    Ah found the info and It's not :)

    I'm going to get a SRS-X33 which has LDAC so will test this out.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2018
  8. sunshine83
    I use Sony SRS-XB31 portable speaker.
    https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/wireless-speakers/srs-xb31
     
  9. sunshine83
    Yes it does suppose to be on the screen. I can see AAC when I connect my Airpods and I saw LDAC when I connect them with the H2 Pro Stereo Headphones before.
     
  10. mathi8vadhanan
    I'm not sure how this speaker works. But, with Bose you have to cycle through the input sources (using bluetooth button) and make sure that it reads out "Connected to <Device Name>" to complete the connection. Eventhough it says "Connected" in the source (iPhone, M0, A17 etc)
     
  11. sunshine83
    It's just like holding down the bluetooth button for 5 sec and connecting to the device. I reset the memory and connected only mO and nothing changed. Maybe the LDAC code M0 use and Sony uses are little different, so the speaker can't see that it's connected to an LDAC capable device. Could this be the reason @Shanling ?
     
  12. fish1050
    Yeah I have the SRS-XB20 which is LDAC and it wasn't showing the LDAC logo. Out of curiosity I unpaired the M0 from the speaker and did the pairing again and now the LDAC logo does show up. Not sure what happened the first time. I will try and do the same with my other Sony speaker and Sony receiver and see if it works for them as well
     
  13. sunshine83
    which LDAC setting are you using? HQ, Connect or Auto?
     
  14. sunshine83
    Here is the specs for the speaker, so it does support LDAC:

    upload_2018-8-9_12-8-31.png
     
  15. fish1050
    Yeah deleting the pairings and redoing them worked for both Sony speakers and my Sony receiver. The first time it took multiple attempts for all 3 devices to get paired. The second time it was very quick and easy. Both times I used connect, as HQ is overkill and has the least reliable connection in my experience even with my Sony A17. I don't use auto as I don't always want it to try and connect to my devices. If my wife is using the M0 I will use my A17 and don't want the M0 to try to auto connect. Bluetooth with my A17 is fully manual, a bit of a pain but I got use to it.

    Interestingly I don't notice any improvement in sound quality or operating range with the LDAC logo now showing up on the M0. It does give me piece of mind though knowing everything is setup the way it is suppose to be.
     
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