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Shanling M0 - Nano size, touch screen, LDAC & aptX BT, USB DAC/transport and ESS Sabre ES9218P, FW 3.1

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Shanling, Mar 16, 2018.
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  1. Shanling
    Firstly, for anybody without properly working Rar program, here is direct link to the .bin file https://drive.google.com/open?id=1McDRi_p5XuRAiQTYA5VEL6nnwf9BfSGX

    Hmm, implementing both standby and shutdown at the same time, will ask if it's possible.

    We believed that most users have knowledge of their files and what format they are, if not, they can always open the information about the song. Having it constantly displayed on small screen of M0 seemed like waste to us. But it's up to discussion.

    Yes, tearing was slightly improved in 2.0, still can be visible.

    I meant, in settings, it's on 4 items and once you read them, you will probably never need to scroll on these again.
    Song titles, that's different topic, nothing more we can do about them with screen of M0.

    Regarding charging, if you open any full manual of modern smartphone, it's very likely you will find there similar information. This is from manual of Honor 9:
    "Avoid using your device when it is charging. Do not cover your device or the charger."
    Don't think too much about it, it's just standard part of manuals, same as "don't put into microwave".

    To keep it together with update guide, because as you can see even in this thread, some people have no knowledge how to update. So our hope is, if we will give them guide alongside the update, they will manage it smoothly. :wink:

    More advanced EQ is in the works.

    We will have clip case sooner than we anticipated :wink:

    Need for FAT32 was mistake of our engineers. Firmware 2.0 fixed this, so in the future, if your device will be already on 2.0+, any update will be possible with exfat and NTFS.

    What exactly are you looking for? Our system can sort music over album, artist, composer and genre. It will also do album artist, I explained it to our engineers again last week and they will add it in future(apparently nobody in China has any idea how album artist tag works). Of course it also recognizes song numbers, numbers of CD.

    Enough for you or are you looking for something different?

    Firstly, when trying to pair new headphones, make sure the other one is turned off.
    Can you give me more information in Pm what exactly is your M0 doing?

    On few units(currently about 6 out of 2 000 units shipped internationally), there was problem with screen acting on its own. This is fully under warranty and any unit with this problem should be exchanged with your seller.

    Please PM me to look into this problem.

    A) Brand new product released about month ago.
    B) We put out new firmware 3 days ago and we are still working on other small problems.
    C) If you still don't believe in M0, I'm sure you will find other 99USD DAPs working better for you.

    M0 is made from unibody aluminum and quite hard glass screen, we are quite happy with its durability.

    EQ on M0 is quite basic and we are working on more advanced EQ for our MTouch system.

    Digital filters affect pre and post-ringing and little bit frequency response. If you want to learn more about them, you can start for example with this article from Stereophile and then spend few dozens of hours reading takes on it from different blogs, audio engineers, manufacturers, etc.
    For normal users, I will just say, try to change between them to see, which you prefer and if you even hear any difference. Our stock setting is "Minimum Slow"

    We now have one engineer fully devoted to USB output and he is working on making this playback completely problem free.

    Tell the seller to exchange you the unit(and if not, to talk to me directly) and please PM me name of this seller.

    Firstly, M0 has no HiBy Link, also HiBy Link never streamed any music, it was just remote control.
    If you stream from your phone to M0 over BT, you will use different codecs. On iOS it will be AAC, which is lossy. On modern Androids it will be LDAC, on which Sony claims "Same as CD quality". You can learn more about LDAC here On other devices, it will be basic SBC, also lossy.

    Combination of USB in and BT out is not currently supported. We make primarily portable music player, not PC accessory.
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  2. Dr. Manhattan
    Matches well. No cuts, except with my scalpel.
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  3. dricas_007

    Me personally I have not try yet. Cos I am short of the cable to connect. But saw one of the bro post here. Sometimes there is a Sec delay
  4. Mike-WI
    Thanks for the update.bin file.
    When I download it to the root drive and "System Update" I get the following sequence:

    - Confirm update -> Yes
    - Checking FV.
    - M0.V2.0
    - Restarting
    - Update Failed

    So, seems to detect FW v2.0. This is on an exFAT micro SD.
    Despite the *.bin file do I still need a FAT32 micro SD for this update? (I have a 8GB mSD coming from Amazon).
    (I get and appreciate that future FW updates can use exFAT micro SD and that you acknowledge that was an error).


    EDIT: I'm now on FW v2.0 with a 8GB FAT32 mSD with the update.bin file on it. Thank you all for the patience and help. The UI seems faster now.
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2018
  5. DBaldock9
    Just ordered two M0 DAPs - one for me, and one for a friend.
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  6. barondla
    You still need to place file on fat32 formatted card. Will work fine then. Shanling has removed this requirement for future firmware updates.
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  7. Mike-WI
    Thank you for confirming.
    Just seemed strange to me that the FW was being detected by M0 but failing to update.
    Hopefully all resolved after this.
    Downloading more music to my mSD now.


    EDIT: I'm now on FW v2.0 with a 8GB FAT32 mSD with the update.bin file on it. Thank you all for the patience and help. The UI seems faster now.
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2018
  8. Ojsinnerz
    Just ordered one! This should be fun.
  9. Pagedown007
    I just test LDAC receiver mode with Sony NW-A46 But I can't pair both together, can't even find each other devices (open BT function of both devices and find, but nothing found).

    If someone use similar combination (Sony DAP+M0), please suggest me proper way to use them together.
  10. twister6 Contributor
    Doesn't pair up with WM1Z either. It has something to do with limitation of Sony daps. Have no idea what; no issues with smartphones supporting LDAC as everybody else reported successful pair up, while Sony daps are not happy.
  11. Kakki
    Thank you for your answer. Very happy to hear that they work together well. And nice photo!! Wondering if you are enjoying music during surgery :)
  12. Kakki
    Thank you for your reply. It will be very helpful if you will share your test results, if you test them
  13. ironore
    20180611_194844.jpg Using FW2.0 and Mojo.

    When I clicked next/previous song, 7/10 times I heard a cracking sound. They were generally low volume cracking sounds but one or two cracking were loud to hurt the ear a bit.

    Does anyone have this problem?
  14. Dcell7
    Since FW 2.0 the connection with a Mac works though it is SBC only. Couldn't succeed to connect it with Apt-X or AAC, not even by forcing the Mac to use Apt-x.

    The connection to my iPhone X works with AAC now and volume problem seems to be fixed. In FW 1.5 i had to turn up both devices up to almost max volume to get any sound. Now it's plenty loud on half of the max volume.
  15. goody
    can someone describe the sound is it neutral or those it have a nice slight warmth to it ..how is the bass does it have a good slam
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