@fish1050 The problem people seem to have is you do not ask. You make demands and threats with an accusatory and entitled attitude that Shanling is doing wrong by you. You seem to be the only one that that feels this way, and it honestly brings down the thread. Everyone else seems to have a more appreciative attitude towards this device and the company. And when people question you it comes back to "why do you care what I say"? Because you've become "that guy", and it detracts from the whole thread. You've admitted to being jaded from the get go, and regardless of all the positive things people have had to say along with the posts Frankie has made, you continue this negative slant people are just finding tiresome. Not that this should be a rah rah Shanling is great thread, but you keep taking it to the complete opposite side.