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Shanling M0 - Nano size, touch screen, LDAC & aptX BT, USB DAC/transport and ESS Sabre ES9218P, FW 3.1

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by Shanling, Mar 16, 2018.
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  1. paddler57
    My first little system I had LP's, 45's and 8 track. Still have my Styx Snowblind 8 track. I use playlistsplaylists all the time for teaching classes at the gym and for running and workouts. Looking forward to being able to create them on my phone through their app like Hiby. Much more efficient. And should hopefully hopefully make naming them easy too. The ability to have cueing/play once play mode would have me leave my phone in my bag while teaching, which would be nice.

    And my M0 in its Acco Clipped leather case survived a nice 20 mile ride on bumpy shore pavement in Avalon, clipped to a velcro strap across my aerobars. Then transitioned to my shorts for a quick two mile run. Bluetooth through my cheap Aukey headset because my IconX's didn't seem to like playing my Buckcherry tunes (great for working out by the way) directly. No issues. Sansa Clip who? :)
  2. AndySocial
    Do you mean "Audible?" Because "Audiobook" is a tag in any music file, while Audible is a company that provides DRM-encrusted audio files.
  3. Vimtoman
    I thought audio books were just standard mp3 files.
    We just need multiple track position counters
  4. Zachik
    Exactly! Also asked for podcast and audiobook support, and Frankie said it is coming. Waiting patiently......

    MY audiobooks are all CD rips (into MP3), so no license needed by FiiO (or anyone else).
    Some audiobooks are DRM protected (Audible, etc.) - a good compromise (at least for some / most) would be MP3-only supported. Better than no audiobook support at all...
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  5. AndySocial
    I don't think Audible has licensed a non-Android/non-IOS device in nearly a decade. Sandisk used to be Audible-licensed, but I think even they haven't been for at least one or two generations.
  6. fish1050
    This is what Fiio posted in the M3K thread, "we had contacted audiobook and they refused to license to any 3rd party non-android products" So take from that what you will, I always just borrowed audiobooks from the library and converted them to mp3 so not really knowledgeable about what is needed for audiobook support. My A17 supports audiobooks but again I already had all my audiobooks converted to 56k mp3 so never used the feature. It might explain why Sony stopped supporting audiobooks in their DAP's after the A10/A20 series if audiobooks became restricted to android based devices.

    Perhaps Shanling will give us an answer at some point if they do try to support audiobooks. I don't know that Fiio has ever supported audiobooks in any of their DAP's so perhaps they are confused about what is required to support it.
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
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  7. endgame4
    Audiobooks come in several shapes and forms.

    Audible files with DRM (.aax) support seems unlikely.
    .m4b are just .m4a (aac) files with chapters. That should be quite possible.
    .mp3 files with the 'Audiobook' genre are nothing special either.

    Audiobook support is pretty much nothing more than allowing to save the position of a file (a bookmark?) so you can resume it later. Between saving the bookmark and resuming it later you should be allowed to play other (music) files.

    (There are probably other formats, but the general idea still applies I think)
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
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  8. Zachik
    I am doing the same (ripping to MP3).
    Audiobook support, when in MP3 format includes (probably forgot a feature or 2):
    - Be excluded from shuffle.
    - Save position regardless of music track positions saved, so next time you continue a book - it remembers where from even if you listened to music in last couple days.
    - Would be nice to have EQ option for "spoken word"

    Again, maybe more useful / needed features (but cannot think off top of my head right now)...

    Podcast support is pretty similar, BTW. No shuffle / save last position for each podcast individually / EQ for spoken word.

    Hope that clarifies audiobook & podcast requests. Proprietary (e.g. Audible) formats are always nice to have, but NOT a showstopper for most.
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  9. davidcotton
    Audible - never bothered. Don't like eco systems at the best of times

    M4b most of mine are this format, but wouldn't be too much hassle just to batch convert to mp3.

    Really the only thing for an audio book is the ability for it to remember where you left off, either manually or automatically.
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  10. jrflanne
    What I have done is export iTunes playlists, edit the metadata album name to “xxxplaylist”, and copy to the M0. I don’t generally use iTunes much but this does work. These are iTunes resolution but it sounds pretty good. I wear open backed headphones anyway. The M0 and SR80’s have an amazing synergy and you just sling the M0 around the neck and the cable supports it. Best friggin’ $200 sound system ever. Now if I could export Audirvana playlists.
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
  11. bflat
    Can you show us a before and after what the playlist looks like?

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  12. Shanling
    Rockbox is lovely software, if you have time to set it up properly and are interested in reading manual with over 100 pages.

    Not something really suited for common customer.

    But if there is some group interested into adopting Rockbox to M0, I will do my best to help them with it.

    Thank you, will try to find out more about it.

    Not sure who Fiio contacted.

    On our side, we want to make basic audiobook/podcasts app, with key features like bookmarking, remembering positions for each file, controlling the speed of playback.
    So any audiobook you have in MP3 from whatever source, or podcast you just downloaded from soundcloud, will work.

    If you are using audiobooks from some closed system and with DRM, there the chances are quite limited. These big players keeping their "treasure" safe are not interested into third party apps, especially since it's some unknown device for small market.
    For the same reason you will likely never see Spotify support outside of Android DAPs.
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  13. abitdeef
    Audiobooks? What’s next, sliced bread? Geez I like to read, not hear some plebe dictate a story- badly.

    I suppose you guys will be telling me we have robot vacuums next lol
  14. Zachik
    YAY!!! Obviously, Shanling is getting it :)
    Thanks Frankie for supporting us! Cannot wait for that functionality to arrive to my m0!!
  15. Zachik
    Tried reading while driving to work, but that seems to have scared the living hell of the other drivers around me... They started dodging me and honking, across all 3 lanes of the highway - go figure!! :wink:
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