[Tiax]

On a second day of listening, i'm starting to really appreciate what Sennheiser did with IE900.
It's not "OMG!!SO MUCH BASS!" for me anymore, i guess my brain has adjusted to it after all-BA sets i usually use, and now bass, while still elevated, sounds much more in line with the rest of the spectrum, and everything is just so alive, full and dynamic, it's incredible really how such tiny iems can sound so big.
I'm not ready yet to make any comparisons and rankings, but i'm keeping these for sure .

 

[jmills8]

On a second day of listening, i'm starting to really appreciate what Sennheiser did with IE900.
It's not "OMG!!SO MUCH BASS!" for me anymore, i guess my brain has adjusted to it after all-BA sets i usually use, and now bass, while still elevated, sounds much more in line with the rest of the spectrum, and everything is just so alive, full and dynamic, it's incredible really how such tiny iems can sound so big.
I'm not ready yet to make any comparisons and rankings, but i'm keeping these for sure .

So you arw on the road to start looking for a new iem ?

 

[Tiax]

So you arw on the road to start looking for a new iem ?

Haha, not yet, i've told myself again that this one is the last and i need to stop for real now.
But deleting head-fi account is the only way i'm afraid, and i'm not ready to do this yet

 

[newworld666]

On a second day of listening, i'm starting to really appreciate what Sennheiser did with IE900.
It's not "OMG!!SO MUCH BASS!"

I would say, it's seems like the Xelento .. which is not a very good news for me.

I was hopping EQ would not be necessary to give less muddy low frequencies and much clearer faster and deeper impacts in low and ultra low frequencies.

The IER-Z1R, though it needs some EQ too to reduce low frequencies, can produce those amazing impacts in the ultra low frequencies (lower than 40/50hz) the Xelento can't give=> it is still a bit muddy most of the time in those ranges even after EQ.
UPS told me that I will get on tuesday my IE900, I am still hoping the IE 900 won't be muddy in ultra low frequencies and can compete with the IER-Z1R with a much better form factor for my ears.

 

[deafdoorknob]

I would say, it's seems like the Xelento .. which is not a very good news for me.

I was hopping EQ would not be necessary to give less muddy low frequencies and much clearer faster and deeper impacts in low and ultra low frequencies.

The IER-Z1R, though it needs some EQ too to reduce low frequencies, can produce those amazing impacts in the ultra low frequencies (lower than 40/50hz) the Xelento can't give=> it is still a bit muddy most of the time in those ranges even after EQ.
UPS told me that I will get on tuesday my IE900, I am still hoping the IE 900 won't be muddy in ultra low frequencies and can compete with the IER-Z1R with a much better form factor for my ears.

Had you bothered to check out crin’s free repository, you would have been less concerned about it being xelento like, if anything, FR wise, it tracks much closer to z1r (but less lower treble, a common concern with shallow insertion) than the upper bass heavy xelento

 

[Tiax]

Had you bothered to check out crin’s free repository, you would have been less concerned about it being xelento like

FR can give you a rough idea of what to expect, but in the end if you perceive it as muddy, or sharp, or unbalanced in any other way is only for you to decide, so it's great that Sennheiser gives us an option of returning these withing 60 days.

I'm actually looking forward to more critical reviews and reports from people who don't like these, would be interesting to hear why.

 

[newworld666]

Had you bothered to check out crin’s free repository, you would have been less concerned about it being xelento like, if anything, FR wise, it tracks much closer to z1r (but less lower treble, a common concern with shallow insertion) than the upper bass heavy xelento

I saw that ... but unfortunately .. "muddy" low and ultra low frequencies are not only concerned with frequencies response..
But, probably, more with some other more important factors around speed, amortization of the driver or maybe even "resonator chambers and acoustic vortex" of the sound, which are never measured or is even not at all measurable by Crinacle and others ..

Though, I almost PEQ all my headpones and IEM, I look just a little iEM's response curves... I feel better to find by myself with my own ears were I need to make some last adjustments to get less muddy sound by adjusting PEQ (as I can't do anything with other factors, but hopefully Sennheiser did it).
2 days to wait my new IE900

 

[Ryokan]

When people notice the bass first, and are a little surprised, when listening to a new iem could it be that their current iem's are just bass light and they have to adjust? Maybe in some cases this holds true.

 

[xenithon]

I’d also consider burn in, in particular a DD. It can take some time for the driver, magnet, et al to run in and fully settle. I’ve often heard IEMs that are quite bass heavy (and a little wooly) out of the gates settle in terms of thickness, control, and speed.

 

[Nostoi]

I would say, it's seems like the Xelento .. which is not a very good news for me.

I was hopping EQ would not be necessary to give less muddy low frequencies and much clearer faster and deeper impacts in low and ultra low frequencies.

The IER-Z1R, though it needs some EQ too to reduce low frequencies, can produce those amazing impacts in the ultra low frequencies (lower than 40/50hz) the Xelento can't give=> it is still a bit muddy most of the time in those ranges even after EQ.
UPS told me that I will get on tuesday my IE900, I am still hoping the IE 900 won't be muddy in ultra low frequencies and can compete with the IER-Z1R with a much better form factor for my ears.

I'm not sure if you misread the quote: he says "*not* so much bass"....?

 

[ranfan]

I couldn't really get a good seal, and consequently isolation on the IE900. And by changing the tips, and taking the foam cubes inside the attached to them, the bass got louder, and at the same time the treble got elevated as well. Especially the 7kHz region, the hi-hats and cymbals got too crisp to my liking. YMMV of course. But I think it's worth noting for those sensitive in that area. The trough/dip after 2kHz too made the vocals sounded dimmed or veiled to my ears. And although by changing the tips, it did got brighter by a slight lift, it still had that bit of 'nasal' quality to it compared to more neutral monitors. After several tries, I guess the IE900 wasn't for me then.

 

[newworld666]

I'm not sure if you misread the quote: he says "*not* so much bass"....?

Sorry .... you are right, I totally misunderstood his sentence... I was afraid it was speaking of a basshead headphone... which is not the case.
Again sorry !

 

[soundblast75]

I couldn't really get a good seal, and consequently isolation on the IE900. And by changing the tips, and taking the foam cubes inside the attached to them, the bass got louder, and at the same time the treble got elevated as well. Especially the 7kHz region, the hi-hats and cymbals got too crisp to my liking. YMMV of course. But I think it's worth noting for those sensitive in that area. The trough/dip after 2kHz too made the vocals sounded dimmed or veiled to my ears. And although by changing the tips, it did got brighter by a slight lift, it still had that bit of 'nasal' quality to it compared to more neutral monitors. After several tries, I guess the IE900 wasn't for me then.

The way I've always approached Senns IEMs has never been like other models, the Senn do not need to go deep in the ear, think of them as headphone, don't shove them in, it'll feel like they are not fully in, but they will find their place. It's hard to explain, but but just in case you did some pushing amd rotating yo get a seal, this never worked for me, hope it helps as I'm sure you've not heard them to full potential and it'll be a shame to return before you do

 

[ericpalonen]

On a second day of listening, i'm starting to really appreciate what Sennheiser did with IE900.
It's not "OMG!!SO MUCH BASS!" for me anymore, i guess my brain has adjusted to it after all-BA sets i usually use, and now bass, while still elevated, sounds much more in line with the rest of the spectrum, and everything is just so alive, full and dynamic, it's incredible really how such tiny iems can sound so big.
I'm not ready yet to make any comparisons and rankings, but i'm keeping these for sure .

Welcome to the #ie900club ! Can't wait to hear some more impressions from you.

 

[Tiax]

I couldn't really get a good seal, and consequently isolation on the IE900. And by changing the tips, and taking the foam cubes inside the attached to them, the bass got louder, and at the same time the treble got elevated as well.

Neither stock cable nor stock tips worked for me as well.
But with Alo Silver Litz cable (modified, it will not work otherwise!) comfort has improved a lot, and after some tip rolling i'm using Ortofon tips, they allow for a semi shallow fit. Xelento tips are ok too, but then it gets very shallow and not secure enough in my ears.