Sennheiser IE800 IEM's
Sep 6, 2017 at 3:47 PM Post #7,186 of 7,990
One commute in with the IE800 Comply tips and they absolutely nailed it. The "heat" in the treble goes away, yet you're still immersed in detail. I was even blasting 8kHz and 16kHz on my EQ and while still sounding weird, they didn't kill my ears like they did before I installed the tips.

What's funny is that the IE800's "fatal flaw" is a very straightforward thing to correct. These IEMs have a single, relatively wide band treble spike (more like a hill) centered at 11kHz. This can be corrected with a single band of parametric EQ, and IMO you're left with flawless sound. Too bad there's no universal parametric EQ available for Android....

I really like that treble-happy area actually...
 
Sep 6, 2017 at 4:09 PM Post #7,187 of 7,990
Sep 6, 2017 at 5:38 PM Post #7,188 of 7,990
I'm not sure if you can install, or how to install tidal and other apps on DX200, but they sound amazing with ie800!
Con confirm tidal works on the dx200.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 12:21 PM Post #7,191 of 7,990
Looks like they're keeping the overall design the same, and making it balanced (which is great). I wonder how much impact the "new dampers" will have on the treble glare. If they tone that down a bit, these are money. I might even buy them new!! :wink:

I bet these are a few months/years out. Sennheiser releasing the IE80S and the IE800S closely wouldn't be good for sales.
 
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Sep 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM Post #7,192 of 7,990
Looks like they're keeping the overall design the same, and making it balanced (which is great). I wonder how much impact the "new dampers" will have on the treble glare. If they tone that down a bit, these are money. I might even buy them new!! :wink:
I bet these are a few months/years out. Sennheiser releasing the IE80S and the IE800S closely wouldn't be good for sales.

Haven't experienced any "treble glare" my self which IMHO would be totally unacceptable at this price point or any price point for that matter...I'd never keep them. : ( ...as it stands, nothing to tone down in my books. : )
We may see the ie800 "S"s sooner than later as they are in a different tier and may be closer to the "Dior" pricing at $1199 so aren't really competing with one another.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 1:42 PM Post #7,193 of 7,990
Haven't experienced any "treble glare" my self which IMHO would be totally unacceptable at this price point or any price point for that matter...I'd never keep them. : ( ...as it stands, nothing to tone down in my books. : )
We may see the ie800 "S"s sooner than later as they are in a different tier and may be closer to the "Dior" pricing at $1199 so aren't really competing with one another.
There's a pretty marked wide-band minor spike centred around 11kHz on pretty much every IE800 measurement you can find, and to my ears it's easily detectable. This spike is present in both compensated and uncompensated measurements. Whether or not this is a bad thing is entirely up to taste, but I think to say it isn't there is disingenuous.

Please see:
http://i.imgur.com/Ky7Tprk.png
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800sampleC.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE8002013.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800.pdf

I may even keep my regular IE800 and sell my BA IEMs to fund the IE800S. I think an IE800 with a balanced option and maybe 5db less activity in the 11kHz area would be a real winner, even if the proprietary ear-tips and semi-removable cable might still bug people.
 
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Sep 7, 2017 at 3:01 PM Post #7,194 of 7,990
There's a pretty marked wide-band minor spike centred around 11kHz on pretty much every IE800 measurement you can find, and to my ears it's easily detectable. This spike is present in both compensated and uncompensated measurements. Whether or not this is a bad thing is entirely up to taste, but I think to say it isn't there is disingenuous.

Please see:
http://i.imgur.com/Ky7Tprk.png
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800sampleC.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE8002013.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800.pdf

I may even keep my regular IE800 and sell my BA IEMs to fund the IE800S. I think an IE800 with a balanced option and maybe 5db less activity in the 11kHz area would be a real winner, even if the proprietary ear-tips and semi-removable cable might still bug people.

I mean they have that 11kHz bump, but that is why I bogut them, it gives them an edge over many other IEMs and headpones, it is why I love them so much, that and that amazing mids!!!
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 3:03 PM Post #7,195 of 7,990
I mean they have that 11kHz bump, but that is why I bogut them, it gives them an edge over many other IEMs and headpones, it is why I love them so much, that and that amazing mids!!!
Indeed, these things are special. I just think if that 11kHz was toned down a bit, we'd have a world-class dynamic IEM on our hands across the board.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 3:11 PM Post #7,196 of 7,990
There's a pretty marked wide-band minor spike centred around 11kHz ........

That's beyond my hearing range...lol.....and as you say minor. : )

Seriously though...what type of music are folks listening to, at 11K there should be basically only greatly diminished overtones/harmonics, which does impart some sparkle and air. (if you can hear it)...now a spike around 4-6k that would definitely be annoying.
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Sep 7, 2017 at 4:36 PM Post #7,197 of 7,990
Im rather a fan of IEM having certain 'unbalanced' characteristics. It what makes them special. Otherwise everyone would be wearing the same brand of IEM. (Like todays) mobile phone market, yuk.
 
Sep 7, 2017 at 10:35 PM Post #7,198 of 7,990
Does the Dita Audio Dream or Campfire Vega really live up to the significant price premium over these?

I am in the market for an excellent IEM. Best I have right now is the UE900. Heard these months ago and can't stop thinking about them. But those two I mention get much love in the non BA realm. Wonder if you think the ie800 holds up well against them?
 
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Sep 11, 2017 at 11:33 AM Post #7,199 of 7,990
That's beyond my hearing range...lol.....and as you say minor. : )

Seriously though...what type of music are folks listening to, at 11K there should be basically only greatly diminished overtones/harmonics, which does impart some sparkle and air. (if you can hear it)...now a spike around 4-6k that would definitely be annoying.
11kHz is by no means crazy. I listen to music that has drums in it, and that 11kHz can get a little fatiguing with cymbals and even has a notable impact on the snap of a snare.

Also, playing around - I find Comply tips with -3db at 8kHz and 16kHz (common EQ points) sounds fantastic to me. Give it a try!
 
Sep 11, 2017 at 1:20 PM Post #7,200 of 7,990
Have you checked out this thread?
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fake-senheiser-ie800.700604/page-20#post-13668187
There may be a few legit on ebay but the majority are fakes, under $100 definitely....why not post the ebay url here, myself and I'm sure members will gladly voice their opinions.
And as noted above the unscrupulous buy legit, swap out with a fake and return for a full refund....Amazon being the biggest target but at least you are protected.

POSEDOWN,
I have a IE800 that I will sell if I can't find a solution to run balanced with a 4.4MM plus to work with my Sony NW-WM1Z DAP.
Has anyone converted to 4.4MM?
Thanks,
 

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