[Dj Jaz]

   
Absolutely! But for myself it came out quite favorably: I paid $200 for the initial fake, and then (I hesitate to say it $30 for the additional 3, then some $40 for experimental ear tips. So totaling it all up, an average of $80 for a set of very satisfying IE800 class IEM, which in my subjective weighting I even slightly prefer over the original.

Crazy. thanks for sharing

 

[Rob80b]

   
The fakes Rob has are actually hard to tell apart from the originals compared to the other earlier ones 

Make that had as I've passed them on to one of my brothers, who's also a discerning audiophile and says they're the best iems he's had...so there are some good ones out there, fortunately or unfortunately.

 

[AudioDwebe]

I picked up a fake pair, as well, from ebay last year sometime. Sonic bliss is what I encountered. I couldn't believe how spacious the headstage was. I was so impressed that I imediately bid on a few more before and won.

I knew they weren't authentic, but figured they were just a gray market product. Since they sounded as good or better than most every other iem I had listened to, I doubted they were really "fakes."

Only after I had three pairs did I listen to one of the Stereophile test discs.

The spaciousness was due to them being wired out of phase. On top of that, the left/right was wired backwards. This I knew early on so I just swapped the L/R in my ears and they really never bothered me.

I rewired them in phase and they still sounded great. I quit using them at some point for some reason.

Never thought to try different tips. I guess I'll try that now that I'm thinking about it.

Oh, I remember now why I quit using them: Through the iPod Classic and Arrow amp, they sounded absolutely wonderful. Then I got curious about the Oppo DAC/amp through an iPod Touch. With that rig, the iem's lost their magic. Weird, up until that point, I pretty much consided the fakes my end game iem's.

I should have known better. This is Head-Fi, after all, which means there is no such thing as an "end game".

 

[Dj Jaz]

I picked up a fake pair, as well, from ebay last year sometime. Sonic bliss is what I encountered. I couldn't believe how spacious the headstage was. I was so impressed that I imediately bid on a few more before and won.

Thats how I kinda feel about my Fakes. I would have kept them if I didn't spend $700 Canadian. There going back to amazon, and I order IE800's right from Sennheiser. Taking no chances, and paying the full price. Oh well you only live once and can never have to many

.  right?  

 

[kuebler]

The spaciousness was due to them being wired out of phase. On top of that, the left/right was wired backwards. 

 
Hmmm...
 
Doesn't really sound like solid re-engineering...
 
Sure not one of the "good" fakes...

 

[rcmo]

 
By others I had read, that the Mandarines M is more like a Sennheiser L.
 
Could you shed further light on this, because I might be interested to do a test as well. 
 
Thanks.

The 3 size mandarines and the medium senn. Keep in mind that the mandarines do not shrink as the senns due to the inner foam.
 

 

[AudioDwebe]

Good point.

If these are not one of the good fakes, the good one must be pretty sweet!

Hmmm...

Doesn't really sound like solid re-engineering...

Sure not one of the "good" fakes...

 

[jwbrent]

The 3 size mandarines and the medium senn. Keep in mind that the mandarines do not shrink as the senns due to the inner foam.

Comply has foam tips designed for the IE 800 as well.

 

[Dobrescu George]

Interesting (?)

Sadly comply would almost always take some of the treble out , killing the presentation of ie800

 

[TeknicalXtacy]

I have found the same thing as well.  In some cases it can be subtle, but I also feel some of the detail is lost as well.

 

[Sound Eq]

Interesting (?)

Sadly comply would almost always take some of the treble out , killing the presentation of ie800

i ordered those tips and i will report back
 
i like to have all tips i can find that suit ie800

 

[cellarbro]

Just happened to accidentally thought of something and it just hit the bullseye for me.
 
I happened to have some of the tips from Can Jam that I got from Noble Audio. They snap on perfectly onto the IE800 and are actually very clear. I actually think they are better than stock.
 
The fit (stock) was uncomfortable due to the softness of the flaps. The edges of the tips would lean against my ear and I found it uncomfortable. I also don't think they sealed properly. These noble audio don't have a weird fit and clear up the mid range and make the treble a little less tizzy. Also because the tips are made of a thicker silicone, the edges of the tip corners don't sit weird in my ear. 
 
Anyone with a pair of the Noble Audio tips should try them. They seem to have the same snap on snap off force of the regular stock tips. 
 

Edit: I need to find more of these tips in case I lose them. Amazing! A+ for me.
 
I was a little disappointed with the IE800 this morning after listening to my SE846 for so long. I found the bass kind of bloated and the treble at times tizzy and harsh with the midrange kind of drowned out a bit by the heavy set bass and sharper than usual treble.
 
Definitely not as smooth sounding as my SE846 which has a warm and smooth sound signature with serious full ranged bass.

 

[catroni]

Just happened to accidentally thought of something and it just hit the bullseye for me.

I happened to have some of the tips from Can Jam that I got from Noble Audio. They snap on perfectly onto the IE800 and are actually very clear. I actually think they are better than stock.

The fit (stock) was uncomfortable due to the softness of the flaps. The edges of the tips would lean against my ear and I found it uncomfortable. I also don't think they sealed properly. These noble audio don't have a weird fit and clear up the mid range and make the treble a little less tizzy. Also because the tips are made of a thicker silicone, the edges of the tip corners don't sit weird in my ear. 

Anyone with a pair of the Noble Audio tips should try them. They seem to have the same snap on snap off force of the regular stock tips. 



Edit: I need to find more of these tips in case I lose them. Amazing! A+ for me.

I was a little disappointed with the IE800 this morning after listening to my SE846 for so long. I found the bass kind of bloated and the treble at times tizzy and harsh with the midrange kind of drowned out a bit by the heavy set bass and sharper than usual treble.

Definitely not as smooth sounding as my SE846 which has a warm and smooth sound signature with serious full ranged bass.

can you post a photo of the tips?

 

[cellarbro]

can you post a photo of the tips?

http://imgur.com/a/4WsvL
http://imgur.com/a/OblDk
 
Sorry the images aren't working on the forum for some reason. 

 

[Sound Eq]

  Just happened to accidentally thought of something and it just hit the bullseye for me.
 
I happened to have some of the tips from Can Jam that I got from Noble Audio. They snap on perfectly onto the IE800 and are actually very clear. I actually think they are better than stock.
 
The fit (stock) was uncomfortable due to the softness of the flaps. The edges of the tips would lean against my ear and I found it uncomfortable. I also don't think they sealed properly. These noble audio don't have a weird fit and clear up the mid range and make the treble a little less tizzy. Also because the tips are made of a thicker silicone, the edges of the tip corners don't sit weird in my ear. 
 
Anyone with a pair of the Noble Audio tips should try them. They seem to have the same snap on snap off force of the regular stock tips. 
 

Edit: I need to find more of these tips in case I lose them. Amazing! A+ for me.
 
I was a little disappointed with the IE800 this morning after listening to my SE846 for so long. I found the bass kind of bloated and the treble at times tizzy and harsh with the midrange kind of drowned out a bit by the heavy set bass and sharper than usual treble.
 
Definitely not as smooth sounding as my SE846 which has a warm and smooth sound signature with serious full ranged bass.

i for one agree the ie800 lack in mids and sometimes is perceived as recessed, and I do not care how much it gets hailed here but that is a fact.
 
now about sound stage the ie800 has a decent sound stage, if you really want a huge sound stage iem buy the tralucent ref1 peroid
 
for best mids buy the empire ears zeus
 
but all in all the ie800 is an iem that i will never sell as I like it alot