[gefski]

Hello guys I am an owner of a pair of hd650 and I really need your help, please.
I keep them connectet into a Fireface UC headphones out -> https://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/fireface_uc.php

My problem:
I find them to have some of "veil" sound.

Using the "v-word" in this thread is really dangerous.

 

[boblauer]

I will second the notion of an HD650 out of a phone will not allow them,to achieve their best. I run mine out of a liquid carbon so an amp similar would be my suggestion

 

[iancraig10]

Well, a phone isn’t really going to drive anything that well.

Tbh, I find the hd650 is better than many headphones on lesser amps because it’s a smoother listen which makes it a very good all round headphone actually, but expecting it to sound great from a phone is just a bit optimistic.

 

[DavidA]

I will second the notion of an HD650 out of a phone will not allow them,to achieve their best. I run mine out of a liquid carbon so an amp similar would be my suggestion

The Liquid Carbon while a great amp was a bit to warm for the HD650 to me and my friend who owned the LC but its a much better match for the HD800 and HE560.

 

[raybone0566]

Got a chance to hear the zmf eikon. They don't offer much more than the 650's imo. Just shows what a incredible value the 650's are

 

[Krutsch]

Using the "v-word" in this thread is really dangerous.

 

[castleofargh]

a vecess .

 

[cswann1]

@Krutsch Best headphone meme EVER!

 

[ahmadfaizadnan]

Got a chance to hear the zmf eikon. They don't offer much more than the 650's imo. Just shows what a incredible value the 650's are

I am sort of agree to this. Makes me appreciate the 650 more now

 

[RickB]

The successor to the HD650 has a page on Sennheiser Canada. Apologies if they take the page down.

http://en-ca.sennheiser.com/headphones-audiophile-high-end-hd-660-s

 

[purehifi192]

Lower impedance at 150 Ohms for a better fit with mobile devices seems to be the big difference. Other minor changes include a slightly higher frequency response and SPL and a slightly lower THD. Unsure how different the new transducer design compares to the 650. Pricing seems similar as well.

 

[LazyListener]

The successor to the HD650 has a page on Sennheiser Canada. Apologies if they take the page down.

http://en-ca.sennheiser.com/headphones-audiophile-high-end-hd-660-s

It's showing on the US site, too. https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphones-audiophile-high-end-hd-660-s

Interesting how it's 150 Ohms. Slightly higher efficiency, too.

I wonder if this means the end of the HD 650.

 

[LazyListener]

Lower impedance at 150 Ohms for a better fit with mobile devices seems to be the big difference. Other minor changes include a slightly higher frequency response and SPL and a slightly lower THD. Unsure how different the new transducer design compares to the 650. Pricing seems similar as well.

Frequency response is the same. 10 - 41,000 Hz. Lower distortion is always a plus, even if it it's probably imperceptible.

 

[purehifi192]

Frequency response is the same. 10 - 41,000 Hz. Lower distortion is always a plus, even if it it's probably imperceptible.

650 frequency response goes to 39.5 kHz. Certainly imperceptible.

 

[LazyListener]

650 frequency response goes to 39.5 kHz. Certainly imperceptible.

According to the user manual, HD 650 goes up to 41 kHz. https://en-us.sennheiser.com/global-downloads/file/4636/HD650_Manual_11_2016.pdf