Sennheiser HD 490 PRO just announced
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The only retailer I can find seems to have it listed for 385 € here:
https://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_hd_490_pro.htm
https://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_hd_490_pro.htm
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Watching the product tour video, they're going to sell a ton of these as there are so many nicely thought out design elements. And not just to music industry folks and youtube creators, especially if the sound signature is pleasing with good imaging and detail.
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Sweet water has them for preorder for $399 and I'm grabbing one.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD490Pro--sennheiser-hd-490-pro-open-back-studio-headphones
They list them on eBay for the Pro plus version at $479 which comes with extra pads and headband
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404758125494
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD490Pro--sennheiser-hd-490-pro-open-back-studio-headphones
They list them on eBay for the Pro plus version at $479 which comes with extra pads and headband
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404758125494
I wondering how they compare to the R70x?
donpablo
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Do the pads from the hd560s model fit 490 pro?
arielext
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donpablo
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Rating headphones as bad because they are below/above to harman target in certain ranges on phantom-measurment-rig is literally the sickness spreading like virus novadays among the so called "headphones-reviewers". Imagine you go to the store to buy a suit, and there is a mannequin that has average sizes, average height, average chest, arms, legs etc. And a seller is telling you that this special suit is closest to this perfect mannequin sizes so it will be best for you, other ones are bad because they don't fit to it so they will not fit to your 'tastes' as well. Even the preference bonds will not tell you the real story, because the measurments are still on phantom head/ears, which is not the same as our head with skin/bones etc, our ears, earlobes, their sizes, etc. Just put on certain headphones, open tone generator app like https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ and check yourself how really deep/high are the dips/peaks comparing it to the frequency-response-chart. I bet almost none of reviewers do that...
Death_Block
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Blimey just realised they are more expensive than the 6xx series
focysrite2
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People just like to feel good using bad gear in this hobby. Professionals don't care. DT990 may make your hobby boring but its better than 99% of what's hanging on your wall. Cry more.
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donpablo
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Ow boy, how much ignorance in so few words. Saying that DT990 is objectively better than headphones X, Y, Z may be true in sense of being closed to Harman Target or whatever other target. But saying its just better, in sense better for everyone, is simply pure ignorance of the objective, measured, researched facts. Like:
- personal HRTF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function
- the age of a person https://www.wikilectures.eu/w/Hearing_threshold_and_auditory_field ("The threshold of audibility at high frequencies increases with age" graph)
- personal audiogram (you can get that from audiologist) that will be different for almost everyone
- personal hearing sensitivity, one can find the certain frequency range as annoying (on certain dB levels) despite his hearing abilities.
- intended use of headphones also may differ from person to person, one needs it for monitoring, one for listening music in the workoffice, one will be mostly listening to jazz and classical music, other will listen mostly to heavy metal.
It all matters and it is possible that for some people DT990 (or whatever other HP) will be the best, for other one it will sound like crap.
That is why there is no best headphone for everyone, it is simply and objectively impossible.
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Kammerat Rebekka
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Yeah…err…fantastic headphone
The above shows the same as I hear ie massive bass roll off and extremely unpleasant upper frequencies. Sure wearing the pads down so as your ears rest up against the drivers evens out the frequency response somewhat…but still doesn’t adress this headphone’s massive distortion numbers.
That’s not to say that some folks won’t love it - I know a couple that do.
Anyhoo…anything over 2k is very much dependant on the individual’s anatomy, which is why a) equalising something above 2k is a crabshoot and b) what may be perfectly alright for some will sound piercing to others.
I am not in any way shape or form a Harman Target fanboy, but I love the fact that it comes with actual science backing it up + blind testing. What it does is to give us objective measuring data that we can interject our own tastes into. People tend to get that wrong about it and think that if X doesn’t perfectly match the target, then folks who use Harman as a tool will automatically hate that headphone. Nahh…tuning is a personal thing and relies on tastebuds. What measurements can provide us with though are an objective look into the performance of headphones. The DT990’s tonality could be quite a pleasant listen methinks, but the actual delivery is marred with objectively poor performance aka peaks and very high distortion.
focysrite2
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Yeah…err…fantastic headphone
The above shows the same as I hear ie massive bass roll off and extremely unpleasant upper frequencies. Sure wearing the pads down so as your ears rest up against the drivers evens out the frequency response somewhat…but still doesn’t adress this headphone’s massive distortion numbers.
That’s not to say that some folks won’t love it - I know a couple that do.
Anyhoo…anything over 2k is very much dependant on the individual’s anatomy, which is why a) equalising something above 2k is a crabshoot and b) what may be perfectly alright for some will sound piercing to others.
I am not in any way shape or form a Harman Target fanboy, but I love the fact that it comes with actual science backing it up + blind testing. What it does is to give us objective measuring data that we can interject our own tastes into. People tend to get that wrong about it and think that if X doesn’t perfectly match the target, then folks who use Harman as a tool will automatically hate that headphone. Nahh…tuning is a personal thing and relies on tastebuds. What measurements can provide us with though are an objective look into the performance of headphones. The DT990’s tonality could be quite a pleasant listen methinks, but the actual delivery is marred with objectively poor performance aka peaks and very high distortion.
https://hifiendgame.com/index.php?threads/beyerdynamic-dt770-dt880-dt990-endgame-pro-250-ohm.1/
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