Senn PX-200 better than Shure E2c?

[djlucite]

Well, I got my Shure E2c's (upgrading from Sennheiser PX-200's) and...i'm slightly dissapointed in the Shures. They sound...dull, I guess is the word. The bass seems to be lacking, the high ends are veiled and muffled...and it sure doesn't sound like $100 to me. My PX200's sound 'better'. The PX's bass goes WAY deeper than the E2's, while still not 'intruding' on the sound. Also, the PX's highs are very clear. Although what I did notice (after breaking these in) is that the E2's high end is a lot more 'crisp' and 'sharp' than the PX's...but not as clear. It's weird. And I've tried every tip, foam, flex...even tried jamming my Koss PLugs tip there...no luck. Anyone else feel the same way? Should I have gone with an ER6/ER6i?

I'm comparing the E2c's to both Sennheiser PX200's, and Sennheiser HD280 Pro's. Both sound better, I think. I WANT to like the E2's, they're portable, nice, block out sound...and I THINK they're more 'accurate' but I really love the way the PX200's sound. Do you think I wasted my money?

 

[Jasper994]

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Originally Posted by djlucite Well, I got my Shure E2c's (upgrading from Sennheiser PX-200's) and...i'm slightly dissapointed in the Shures. They sound...dull, I guess is the word. The bass seems to be lacking, the high ends are veiled and muffled...and it sure doesn't sound like $100 to me. My PX200's sound 'better'. The PX's bass goes WAY deeper than the E2's, while still not 'intruding' on the sound. Also, the PX's highs are very clear. Although what I did notice (after breaking these in) is that the E2's high end is a lot more 'crisp' and 'sharp' than the PX's...but not as clear. It's weird. And I've tried every tip, foam, flex...even tried jamming my Koss PLugs tip there...no luck. Anyone else feel the same way? Should I have gone with an ER6/ER6i? I'm comparing the E2c's to both Sennheiser PX200's, and Sennheiser HD280 Pro's. Both sound better, I think. I WANT to like the E2's, they're portable, nice, block out sound...and I THINK they're more 'accurate' but I really love the way the PX200's sound. Do you think I wasted my money?

I'd say the PX200 is substantially more detailed than the E2, but there are trade offs. The E2 offers much better isolation, is more compact and is arguably more comfortable. I also find them more musical and IIRC their soundstaging and imaging is better. BTW you paid too much... I got the E2 for $55, and for that price, they're a good deal and their performance is excellent.

 

[bLue_oNioN]

EDIT: Just saw that you paid 100USD for them. I still think you should give them some more time though, you just might come away feeling a little surprised.

 

[djlucite]

Hmm...thanks for the reply. What do you mean by "more musical"? And you paid $55?! Man....

So anyway, the PX200 you think is more detailed? What about the E2's highs...do they sound a little cripser and more sharp to you? The PX200's sound a bit...hmm..they're nice and high, and reach up higher, but like...they're 'slippery' and a bit metallic. And my HD 280 Pros just SUCK.

Not worth $80 in my opinion...

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Originally Posted by bLue_oNioN EDIT: Just saw that you paid 100USD for them. I still think you should give them some more time though, you just might come away feeling a little surprised.

Hmm, I've had them for a month now. Got them in the beginning of August. You think they're broken in yet?

UBEREDIT: OMG, rofl, i just realized i'd been saying "HD280" the whole time...it's the "HD212 Pro's"...sorry, lol.

 

[bLue_oNioN]

Well, I have never had any experience with the PX200s so I wouldn't be able to honestly tell you whether I think your impressions in regards to comparisons should be final or not, but I can see how you could perceive the E2s as dull -- I felt the same when I went back to the E2s from the E3s.

 

[djlucite]

Hmm, I demoe'd the E3's in a store once...nothing special to me...the highs were a bit higher but i just dismissed it as the same as the E2c's...
Then again I was only able to demo it for 15 seconds because my stupid friend wanted to go look at the Apple Store instead, lol. And all they let you demo there is BOSE headphones...meh...

Ironically, that's where I got my E2c's (and got raped on the price.)

So after listening to the E2c's again, the bass seems quite THERE, but not...overpowering the other instruments, like the PX200. Still a bit veiled on the high-end, but I guess it needs to be broken in a bit more still...

 

[Eagle_Driver]

I agree with you about the HD212 Pros. They have huge, sloppy big-dog-licking-your-face wet-kiss bass, recessed upper mids and grainy highs. (Though you can do even worse than the 212Pros at twice the price - like the Sony V600's

)

By the way, I don't particularly care for the PX200's, either: For some reason, I could never get a proper fit. And once I got the PX200's onto my best-sounding position, they shifted out of that position all too easily for me.

As for the Shure E2c's, I thought they sounded pretty good even at their full $100 price. I have two complaints about those canalphones though: They can be somewhat painful to wear for long stretches (especially with the silicon rubber tips), and their treble response is a bit rolled off.

 

[djlucite]

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Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver I agree with you about the HD212 Pros. They have huge, sloppy big-dog-licking-your-face wet-kiss bass, recessed upper mids and grainy highs. (Though you can do even worse than the 212Pros at twice the price - like the Sony V600's ) By the way, I don't particularly care for the PX200's, either: For some reason, I could never get a proper fit. And once I got the PX200's onto my best-sounding position, they shifted out of that position all too easily for me. As for the Shure E2c's, I thought they sounded pretty good even at their full $100 price. I have two complaints about those canalphones though: They can be somewhat painful to wear for long stretches (especially with the silicon rubber tips), and their treble response is a bit rolled off.

Yes, the PX200's are a bit hard to get a seal, but once you do they sound quite nice for $40. But my stupid friend sat on them and broke one of the earpieces...i managed to get it back together, but the right earpiece doesn't quite lock in place all the way...and it pushes on your temple and gets annoying...arrgghhh....

And HD212Pro's:

 

[Jasper994]

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Originally Posted by djlucite Hmm...thanks for the reply. What do you mean by "more musical"? And you paid $55?! Man.... So anyway, the PX200 you think is more detailed? What about the E2's highs...do they sound a little cripser and more sharp to you? The PX200's sound a bit...hmm..they're nice and high, and reach up higher, but like...they're 'slippery' and a bit metallic. And my HD 280 Pros just SUCK. Not worth $80 in my opinion... EDIT: Hmm, I've had them for a month now. Got them in the beginning of August. You think they're broken in yet? UBEREDIT: OMG, rofl, i just realized i'd been saying "HD280" the whole time...it's the "HD212 Pro's"...sorry, lol.

OUCH!!! You gotta stop paying so much for stuff... You could have gotten the HD280 Pros for $80 (actually 60-70)!!!


By musical, I mean to say music sounds more natural and more like real music. With the PX200, everything's there but it's sterile and less involving.