Schiit Two Channel Clubhouse

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  1. Timster
    Probably should have posted this here, not in the "Schitt Happened" thread....

    My Vidar arrived a few days ago, and i managed to run it into protection after a couple of hours at *very* high volume into 4 ohm speakers. Running via a Joty to VAF DC-7 Gen 4 speakers, I had the Joty on high gain and at close to 3 o'clock. It sounded awesome :) Normally I wouldn't listen that loud (wish I checked the SPL, will do that another time). When it shut down I checked the temp with my hand, and couldn't leave my and on the heatsinks, they were hot. 61 degrees C when I checked with my infrared thermo. Is was about 26 degrees ambient in the room. In less than a minute it was running again, the protection seemed to work flawlessly.

    So I found the limits in my system. I seriously doubt I would go anywhere near this normally.

    Yesterday at much more sane levels, the Vidar sounds excellent.
     
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  2. yonson
    For a computer setup I doubt you'd ever need more than what Ragnarok can put out, even with really inefficient speakers at 1 meter it's going to play pretty darn loud...
     
  3. Robert Wortman
    25' for a line level cord is not a problem . On the other hand, speaking as someone who has a quasi-sizable LP collection, have you considered how long this will take? I have digitized a few dozen of mine. For sharing with a friend, for listening in a car, and for removing objectionable noise from a few old Ebay purchases that were not as good as advertised. For the rest, I just play them. Lets say you have 500 records. Between setting record levels, actually playing them, then breaking up into tracks (the automatic methods don't fully work) and then adding metadata tags, you are talking probably 90 minutes per LP. 750 hours. More if the records need noise reduction. If it was your 40 hour a week job, that's almost 19 weeks of doing nothing but messing about with LP's. 8 hours a day on the weekend? 47 weekends with no weekends off. A couple of hours in the evening? A bit over a year. Unless you are much more of a dedicated fussbudget than most people, you are going to get bored before you really get started. It's a catch 22. If you only have a few dozen LP's the equipment needed to do a good job isn't worth it. If you have a lot, it isn't worth the time you will have so spend. The best thing to do with your LP's is to play them.
     
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  4. GumbyDammit223
    Oh, I know how long it would take for sure! Not only the 45-ish minutes of the actual play time, but the time spent ensuring levels are right and there will be no clipping, oh yeah. As much as I would love to be able to digitize everything, I know that's not a reality. It's just that I have a couple (dozen) that I don't have CD's of that I'd like to digitize. They're from the 70's and 80's that if CD's were available, they would have been "remastered" aka ruined by having their loudness pushed to the point of distortion and their dynamic range minimized to the point of nothingness. I've lost count of the number of "remastered" CD's I've purchased over the past twenty years that are plain garbage because the dynamic range has been eliminated for the sake of loudness. At least with LPs from the late 70's to late 80's, the recording quality wasn't too bad and loudness wars hadn't even been thought of yet.
     
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  5. Robert Wortman
    Yep. I have some digital files I made of Dire Straits and Joni Mitchell records that sound way better than the CD's that were released later. I bought a CD copy of "Court and Spark" that had some sort of high frequency warbling that made it unlistenable. I gave it away. I also got original mono copies of all the Patsy Cline albums. One had a bit of crackling and the others seemed too rare to mess with frequently so I digitized them. If you don't know already there is a tool called Click Repair (http://www.clickrepair.net/) that does an amazing job with click and crackle without seeming to affect the music at all. Once you have it set up it can run fast but you can also run it in real time. When running in real time you can listen to the before, after, and what it is removing. This way you can tell if you have the settings to aggressive and you are cutting musical transients. It works like magic. You can download it and run it for a limited time to try before purchasing. If you are going to do many records it's well worth the $50. The GUI is crap but the results are amazing
     
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  6. GumbyDammit223
    Thanks for the link. Will look into it. Have a great New Year's!
     
  7. Naugrim
    Just ordered a Vidar, Sys and two RCA cables to go with my Mjolnir/Gumby & LS50s. Supposed to start shipping in a week or so. Also got my Massdrop 6XX today. Overall, not a bad little holiday!
     
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  8. D2Girls
    Hey guys. I've got a little bit of a surprise to show you in a month or so! I'm going to be acquiring some new speakers, and my oh my are they something special. I'll give you a hint of what you'll see but it rhymes with porn. Tho to be honest, these speakers are total porn...
     
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  9. Alcophone
    Klipschorn?
     
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  10. D2Girls
    Not *quite* that cool but really close. You're on the right track in that I'm looking at horn loaded loudspeakers. During my search I had more interest in la scalas but vintage klipshorn seemed like a good idea too. I don't really see the point of spending $20k on a new pair when a 70s pair can be got for 1/4 of that price.
     
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  11. Alcophone
    I hope you'll get em soon and that you will be happy with them! I'd be more enthusiastic about vintage speakers if I was confident I could fix them if necessary. Of course spending 4x as much to not need to do that is quite a fee to pay. Looking forward to some pictures!
     
  12. D2Girls
    Actually, from looking at past CAM sales, a good condition vintage klipshorn could be had for $2800. As far as I'm aware a vintage one will perform as admirably as a brand new one. They're $20k a pair new, so do the math, barely more than 10% new cost of you just got used :p
     
  13. Alcophone
    On the website, it says $6k each, so with 8.5% taxes and free ground shipping it's more like $13k.
    Still a lot more, of course, leaving a lot of room to pay someone for repairs if necessary, I guess. :)
     
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  14. Music Alchemist
    As some of you know, I use Klipsch horn-loaded towers...but mine are just in the Reference Premiere range; not the more exotic fully horn-loaded ones.

    http://www.klipsch.com/blog/reference-vs-reference-premiere-whats-the-difference
    http://www.klipsch.com/klipsch-reference-premiere

    They sure do hype them up...

    "the perfect most transparent sound"
    "reproduce your music and movies with absolute fidelity"
    "more kick-ass than other flagships that we’ve released in the past"
    "designed to remove virtually all distortion, so you get as close to your music as possible"
    "the widest, flattest frequency response and the lowest distortion possible"
    "unmatched stereo imaging"
    "be transported to the studio your music was recorded in"
    "will take any and every kind of music and make it sound as amazing as it was when it was during production"
    "the cleanest, most powerful low frequency response on the market"

    I mean, the sound is unbelievable for the price I paid, but companies should really stop trying to make things seem like they're perfect.
     
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  15. D2Girls
    Their price is listed at CAD $9999 each for me :frowning2:
    Also this topic wasn't supposed to turn into klipsh and klipshorn discussion!!! @Music Alchemist, comparing klipshorns to their home theatre line of products is sorta like comparing Jbl lsr305 to their synthesis line...
     
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