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Sep 1, 2013 at 7:38 AM Post #3,256 of 13,350
is it only me or schiit site is not working
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 3:56 PM Post #3,259 of 13,350
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just ordered the bifrost, usb, no uber(got a demo from A.A.)
i've head good things about the lyr bifrost combo ! can't wait

I think you're unique position to be in possession of Both Dac-It and Bifrost...as many of us have looked at both and wondered how they compare. My guess is they are both awesome.
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM Post #3,260 of 13,350
yes, i'm really looking forward to it, and the dacIT is really growing on me, the bifrost has a tough job ahead
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM Post #3,261 of 13,350
yes, i'm really looking forward to it, and the dacIT is really growing on me, the bifrost has a tough job ahead


Will you be feeding the dacs via USB or SPDIF? Lossless files on a computer or...?
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM Post #3,262 of 13,350
Will you be feeding the dacs via USB or SPDIF? Lossless files on a computer or...?

USB
Most of my downloads are flac and wav played through jriver though the majority of my listening is spotify and mog
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM Post #3,263 of 13,350
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Hey imahawki,
 
Just wanted to ping on this - I went through a similar issue with my Magni last week and finally got things resolved today. After cycling different power placement scenarios (different wall, surge protectors, etc.) and running through nonDAC testing (thought it may be machine noise transfer from my iMac usb source) I eventually found out that it was the Audio Extension Cable I was using! I was going to bypass that soon anyway, just waiting on a surge protector (which came today) to be able to move the M/M into a position on my desk where I wouldn't need it.
 
Anyhoo, I posted about it on the Magni thread in case you wanted to check out the scenario in full:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/640783/schiit-magni-headphone-amplifier/1785#post_9751045
 
Hope that helps!
 
The Modi/Magni seems quite exceptional 
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Did you have just a hum or did you have the scratchy volume knob as well?
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM Post #3,264 of 13,350
USB
Most of my downloads are flac and wav played through jriver though the majority of my listening is spotify and mog


The flac & wav files with either dac should give a very transparent window on the music, spotify & mog significantly less so has been my experience.

Should be fun! Be sure & allow the Bifrost time for "listener burn-in" as you have done with the Dacit.
 
Sep 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM Post #3,265 of 13,350
Did you have just a hum or did you have the scratchy volume knob as well?


Hey,

Yep - had a little of both in the mix :/ Scratchiness only when turning the VOL knob in certain ranges.
 
Sep 2, 2013 at 9:57 PM Post #3,267 of 13,350
No DAC can make lesser source material sound good, you have to start with material
 
Sep 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM Post #3,268 of 13,350
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No DAC can make lesser source material sound good, you have to start with material

Agreed. A better DAC will just be able to reproduce the source material with more clarity and transparency. No DAC can make a 128kbps mp3 sound better than a flac, or heck, a 320kbps mp3 file. 
 
Sep 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM Post #3,270 of 13,350
  Agreed. A better DAC will just be able to reproduce the source material with more clarity and transparency. No DAC can make a 128kbps mp3 sound better than a flac, or heck, a 320kbps mp3 file. 

To be fair, a 128kbps MP3 sounds like trash even coming through iPhone earbuds from an iPhone. I remember the blissfully ignorant days of Napster when it was shocking how amazing the quality we could fit into such tiny bits of space was, and 128kbps was mindblowing... not so much anymore.
 
I strongly doubt the large, large majority of people can tell the difference between a V0 and a 320 without Bifrost-tier gear or better, or between either of those and FLAC, and even with the gear necessary and some especially unforgiving cans like the T70, it's very, very close. (This is assuming 16/41khz standard) I have a few recordings that are very quiet beyond the music (jazz, solo piano, etc) where the difference between V0/320 and lossless becomes much more stark, but as the layers and complexity increase, the discernible difference rapidly decreases. As far as what the human ear can even hear in the first place, V0/320 come very, very close to lossless - it's arguable that past the age of 16 or so, you provably won't be able to tell a V0 from a 320, even. 
 
My collection is mostly 320, V0 and ALAC (because iTunes, ugh), but some things I just haven't been able to find in better quality yet. I can't even comprehend not keeping a personal music library - the huge, huge majority of music I like isn't on any of those web services - and it's not because i'm ~so indie~, it's just because I listen primarily to music that isn't in english or is from countries where english isn't the primary language. In my experience, Spotify and the like almost completely ignore anything that falls in that category, especially if it's non-western. Just by browsing forums and watching new posts on the private torrent trackers I frequent, I'm constantly coming across more new music I'm interested in than I can possibly listen to, 99% of it not available on Spotify.
 
As a result, I have a music drive at home along with an identical backup copy I refresh monthly, as well as an external drive at the office serving as an offsite backup, which I keep always up to date by synchronizing it through a fourth backup in the form of a portable mini-external. I lost my whole collection and backups to a power supply failure when I was 16... and never, ever again. Main site, main site backup, portable/pocket backup and offsite backup are now mandatory. I'd love the ease of a web service that allowed me to not do that, but then I'd never be able to listen "off the grid"... so I guess I'll always be tending to a library on my own.
 

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