[Zurv]

hrmmm... tesla's in for a HD800s might not be great match. bright on bright The golden lion will be a nice improvement.
For me what i'd want for the HD800s would be a NOS Telefunken or a Amperex bugle boy. But everyone else wants those too. Cost is a problem and, unless for a dealer you trust, might be used to death already/low quality.

Next week i'm looking forward to trying the Siemens A-Frame and a Bel E88CC ( https://upscaleaudio.com/products/bel-e88cc-6922-philips-sq-design )
but i don't think either are a nice fit for the 800s. (But maybe the 600s.) You are so lucky only having to deal with 1 tube.
oh, val 2.. you have 4 tubes.
But, you should only need to $$ on two of them. ie, the gain tubes.

 

[gimmeheadroom]

hrmmm... tesla's in for a HD800s might not be great match. bright on bright The golden lion will be a nice improvement.
For me what i'd want for the HD800s would be a NOS Telefunken or a Amperex bugle boy. But everyone else wants those too. Cost is a problem and, unless for a dealer you trust, might be used to death already/low quality.

Next week i'm looking forward to trying the Siemens A-Frame and a Bel E88CC ( https://upscaleaudio.com/products/bel-e88cc-6922-philips-sq-design )
but i don't think either are a nice fit for the 800s. (But maybe the 600s.) You are so lucky only having to deal with 1 tube.

Sorry, the Teslas are in a Lyr 2 used for my LCD-3F. The Gold Lions I'm asking about are for a Valhalla 2 used for the 600s and 800s. I'll ask again when I get home, thank you for the info. BTW did not understand what you meant about one tube

 

[TK16]

hrmmm... tesla's in for a HD800s might not be great match. bright on bright The golden lion will be a nice improvement.
For me what i'd want for the HD800s would be a NOS Telefunken or a Amperex bugle boy. But everyone else wants those too. Cost is a problem and, unless for a dealer you trust, might be used to death already/low quality.

Next week i'm looking forward to trying the Siemens A-Frame and a Bel E88CC ( https://upscaleaudio.com/products/bel-e88cc-6922-philips-sq-design )
but i don't think either are a nice fit for the 800s. (But maybe the 600s.) You are so lucky only having to deal with 1 tube.

Don't remember who said the Tesla E88CC were bright. But I think they might of been right.

 

[Zurv]

yeah, i thought it was the 1 tube unit. But you Valhalla 2 is 4. two are drivers and two are gain. The gain tubes are the big impact.

 

[Zurv]

Don't remember who said the Tesla E88CC were bright. But I think they might of been right.

That was a very smart person that said that.
that said, there was a pretty big sound quality difference between the stock 70s telsa and the golden pin military ones. (i didn't like either much.)

have you tried these: https://upscaleaudio.com/products/bel-e88cc-6922-philips-sq-design

i know you don't like the a-frame siemens. Also, what headphones are you using?

 

[TK16]

That was a very smart person that said that.
that said, there was a pretty big sound quality difference between the stock 70s telsa and the golden pin military ones. (i didn't like either much.)

have you tried these: https://upscaleaudio.com/products/bel-e88cc-6922-philips-sq-design

i know you don't like the a-frame siemens. Also, what headphones are you using?

All my info is in my profile bro. The tubes you linked are good. Much better tubes can be had for less. This thread is chock full of information about tubes and opinions and mentioning of good sellers and bad sellers too. I would not start at the beginning of this thread. Start where 2C51, 6N3P, 5670 are discussed in detail. The discussion then moved on to ECC81, ECC82, 7316, pinched waist 6201 Hamburg as well as the 6201 Mullard Mitcham is quite good and available upscale audio, but gain in the 6201 is higher than ECC88 variants. You can add any ECC81 in general to high gain list as well. So what amp you have is very important as to what tubes you can use. Thread also is chock full of info as to what you need to run 2C51 variants and ECC82 variants. Reading this thread in general is beneficial to your wallet as well.

 

[motberg]

Thanks. I was trying a new set of old Teslas recommended here in a Lyr 2 but I got stuck away from home and didn't even have time to listen to them for an hour.

Specifically for the 6922s I was thinking about for my Valhalla 2. I have HD 600s and 800s. Did not intend to run either of those out of a Lyr. The Lyr is driving a pair of LCD-3F

I have been rolling 6922's in a couple pre's the past few years and agree in my experience the Gold Lion 6922 are solid performers, linear, and the best new tube I have tried. From memory, not too much "tube bloom" however, if you are looking for that.
I have a few sets of 74 and 75 Reflektor 6922's which are similarily linear top to bottom and offer a nice helping of tube euphoria into the mix. Other than the Reflektors and Gold Lions, everything else I tried (at least 10 other sets - each around/under $100 USD/tube) had some kind of special characteristic to the sound that would be printed onto very recording.

 

[Zurv]

I've been using these for that last few days and really like them (in the context of my limited shock - which is about 10 6922 pairs)
The power of microphonics is strong in these but it is just for a headphone amp and that is isolated from what it is sitting on. But darn, it picks up everything. The tubes themselves are very quiet. No hum etc..

Siemens E88CC 6922 - MINT NOS NIB 1974 A-Frame Gold Pin with Metal Stamp Date Code A6 4E

marketing stuff from the vendor:

Brand New, MINT NOS NIB 1974 Siemens E88CC 6922 A-Frame Gold Pin Same Metal Stamp Date Code A6 4E. All tubes from the same tube 100 piece tube box. Munich Production. Made in Germany. Other than the 1960s Siemens, these are some of the very best E88CC type from Siemens. And more desirable than 1980s E88CC/E188CC/CCa Label thin halo getter without splatter shield type.

*You will also see the same tube with CCa designation from the same production with same or similar date codes. Also, somewhere after 1972, label style changed from Siemens & Halske to plain Siemens.

I'm using them with a mj2 and a meze empyrean (which i don't love). It cleans up the overly bassy headphones - while still being very dynamic, mids are cleaned up and more vivid. (haha.. did i even say anything then.. oh audio talk.) They are not huge'n you. There is enough warmth already in these headphones.

 

[TK16]

Happy July 4th everyone!

 

[Ripper2860]

You too, sir!!!

 

[Zurv]

Happy 4th all! What will i be doing?
of course trying some new tubes!
BEL 6922 (India?!?)
They should be the same-ish as the Philips 1960s 6922.
More air on the top? nod nod.. these Meze Empyrean could use it! We will see

marketing from upscale audio (where i got them)

BEL Philips SQ design 6922/E88CC – Wow! This is a special day. One of my favorite 6922’s is the 1960’s vintage Philips made 6922’s. Made in Holland, on a rare occasion you may find one branded Amperex or Mullard, but made in the Heerlen plant.

There was a factory in India named BEL that made the exact same tubes as the tubes made in Heerlen. I have some here now in the 12AU7 section, and in the past had them in the 12AX7 section. 12AX7 tubes made in India for $275 each. So you get the idea they have made some heady stuff. But never had them in 6922’s. They made them, but I could NEVER find them until now. The internal parts are 100% exactly the same as the 6922 Heerlen, and they sound the same. I might even suspect that all they did was assemble Dutch parts at BEL.

The sound? Fabulous. The top end is extended, so if you need more air on top this is perfect for you. And because it has more air on top, the cues that create a sense of space in a room will be present. Wonderful, powerful bass. Quiet too. So this tube is good for somebody that is looking for more “air” on top.

I'm still super happy with the Siemens. (so far both those and these new ones are my fav 6922)
Next rolling adventure is into the 12AU7.

here is my odd playlist for tonight:

(i don't like rock much.. HATE heavy metal and country and stuff with pointless bass.)

 

[TK16]

Well fellas sourced another 7316 long plate Heerlen pair, still looking to trade for a pair of GEC A2900A 3x mica square getter. Info in sig.

 

[pbfreak422]

Anyone have any thoughts on what might be a good warm tube set under $150/matched pair for the Lyr 2 would be? Trying to match with the Focal Utopias

 

[parmiep]

Following on @pbfreak422's question, I was also curious about pairings - I have a Bifrost 2 and Mjolnir 2 with a pair of Rad-0 incoming. What would be a good tube pairing there?

 

[TK16]

Thread is dead, obviously we all died from the Coronavirus. RIP!