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I wasn’t home to sign for the FedEx package today, so it will be tomorrow before I have my 801s in hand.

Interesting story...I bought my second pair of 801s from Euroklang in Germany. Tubes arrived, both with permanent paint made to look smudged and one tube missing the diamond from the bottom. Same identical date code from 1970 on both tubes. When I contacted the seller, he was very apologetic and seemed like he really wanted me to return that pair. I didn’t because I wanted to keep them in my possession to figure out if they were real or not.

So...I’m wondering if I have a real tele with no diamond that somehow passed thru QC, or do I have a pair of USA GE ECC801S that at least one got lasered?
The tube I got with no print with a fatter getter has a diamond on there, it is very hard to see. Look at the tube at different angles with a flashlight with a magnifying glass or similar. The other tube looks like it was painted prior to shipment. The glass on both tubes were the cleanest I ever seen.
 
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The Telefunken ECC82 smooth plates are a fantastic tube, I highly recommend them.

Thank you! Now let's see how long I hover over the BUY button before clicking! :grinning:
 
Apr 16, 2019 at 6:16 PM Post #20,643 of 23,446

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Thank you! Now let's see how long I hover over the BUY button before clicking! :grinning:
You get your tester yet? Want us to look over the listing first? I got my pair for 100 bucks and it tested 2,700 across all triodes. 2,200 NOS on a Hickok 752/A.



Wondering if everybody got the same U code on those Tele? Mine is U7107706U 2 U in the code.
Same code in the listing.
 
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I do have a tester -- BK 700 that Bill refurbished and sold me for now and will be getting the Hickok 752 shortly. :)

I've already purchased the pair, but would be most appreciative of any feedback. It's an ETSY purchase and I've purchased from this seller (Lowtechelec) previously. He listed them as a matched/strong pair and the measurements seemed A-OK to me. Lablels are worn off, but the requisite <> is present. Can't send a link since I've already purchased, but here are some picture snips. Let me know if there are any red flags where I should cancel. (Price was $88/pr.)

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Thanks, again.
 
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I do have a tester -- BK 700 that Bill refurbished and sold me for now and will be getting the Hickok 752 shortly. :)

I've already purchased the pair, but would be most appreciative of any feedback. It's an ETSY purchase and I've purchased from this seller (Lowtechelec) previously. He listed them as a matched/strong pair and the measurements seemed A-OK to me. Lablels are worn off, but the requisite <> is present. Can't send a link since I've already purchased, but here are some picture snips. Let me know if there are any red flags where I should cancel. (Price was $88/pr.)



Thanks, again.
They look like mine, very good testing. They have a lot more weight to the sound vs the ECC801S in my gear, but they still need a burn in.
My pair was advertised around 1,700 on a crappy Maxi Preamp 2 like the the 1 @jb77 just purchased:ksc75smile:. JK bro!
 
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As far as I know, there are no other tubes with the same construction as the Tele ECC801s. That post referring to a rebadged US tube doesn't have a photo, so it doesn't mean it looked anything like a Tele ECC801s.

There are plenty of fake ECC83, 82, and 81 around because the construction isn't so unique.

Regarding the paint, it's likely that they're being reprinted to increase the value rather than the label being totally worn off, but are still genuine ECC801s.

@TK16 the Tele ECC801s do sound a lot thinner than something like the Valvo 6201 PWs, which is why I ended up preferring the Valvo 6201s, but they do have the same separation and soundstage capabilities. Bear in mind that Bill's impressions will be different to ours as he has a Woo amp that also has power/rectifier tubes in the mix.

Edit, the JASC music post is also referring to ECC802 and ECC803, which again, aren't unique in construction like the 801s. He only references genuine 801s being reprinted:

"Telefunken ECC801S re-printed.

This pair was offered for sale as NOS <> Telefunken. However it can be seen, the printing is not done with the silk screen print method as by Telefunken. It was stamped on instead with a rubber stamp and white paint. The numbers are not aligned nicely, so I assume it was done with such a stamp tool where you can plug in little rubber letters inside by hand. Moreover, the number "8" was put in there upside down, which makes it pretty obvious somebody did that by hand.

It seems to me the tubes inside are real TFK, and it is not legal to repair the printing or the logo when it has come off. So no accusations here. I Just want to mention this here, that this is done sometimes, and sure some effort was made, because the Telefunken Logo must be ordered from a company who is specialised on stamps. Even so, this may have been done recently, but also 40 years ago. Logically nobody will make these costs of only one pair. So there must be many around of those. I just hope, nobody has the glorious idea to reprint <> 6211"

Gosh gentlemen, had no idea recommending the ECC801S' would cause such anxiety. And AC is correct...to me, because of our different gear and different ears, the Teles sound richer and more textured than the PW Valvo 6201's, which to me sound thin and somewhat disjointed in comparison. Being an audiophile can be confusing sometimes, lol.
 
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Gosh gentlemen, had no idea recommending the ECC801S' would cause such anxiety. And AC is correct...because of our different gear and different ears the Teles sound richer and more textured than the PW Valvo 6201's, which to me sound thin and somewhat disjointed in comparison. Being an audiophile can be confusing sometimes, lol.

And I might want to add that I have the same Woo WA2 that Bill is running. Those ECC801S sound glorious to me, funny paint or not.
 
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Thanks. I'm hoping they will be a nice addition to the Mullard CV4003, CIFTE 12AU7WAH and Tungsram 12AU7A's I currently have. My rig tends to lean toward the neutral side, so a bit of weight is always welcome.


Oh, and Bill Cowen is the one that sold me the BK tester.

Thanks!!
 
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Gosh gentlemen, had no idea recommending the ECC801S' would cause such anxiety. And AC is correct...because of our different gear and different ears the Teles sound richer and more textured than the PW Valvo 6201's, which to me sound thin and somewhat disjointed in comparison. Being an audiophile can be confusing sometimes, lol.
Just remembered I am using the wrong cans in the MJ2, the LCD2C has very bad synergy with that amp. Got my 560`s in seems to be more weight to the music, got Tesla 6CC41 D in my dac, they are sweet like the Foton 3x mica,
 
Apr 16, 2019 at 8:09 PM Post #20,651 of 23,446

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Any thoughts on Telefunken ECC82/12AU7 smooth plate tubes? I don't own any TF's and am curious if these are worth a shot at less than $100 for a pair.

Thx!!

The Telefunken ECC82 smooth plates are a fantastic tube, I highly recommend them.

Thank you! Now let's see how long I hover over the BUY button before clicking! :grinning:

@Ripper2860 I second @TK16 the Tele smooth plates are really good tubes still burning mine in on my LP and they will definitely make my top 10 list!
 
Apr 16, 2019 at 8:16 PM Post #20,652 of 23,446

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This guy may be one of the best sellers I’ve ever dealt with. I kid you not, from India to Arizona in a day and a half. Bought on a late Monday afternoon and got them early Wednesday. Perfect tubes, perfect communication, boxing, etc. I’d buy from this guy all the time without hesitation. He did go up $20 on the 6c8g black glass Tung Sol though. It’s probably because a whole bunch of us bought them in a relatively short time span and he prolly thought “here we go”

My ECC801S are scheduled for delivery this morning, some quick a$$ shipping from India!

Delivered in less than 5 minutes after this post, testing now. One tube has 100% perfect print (not usually a good sign) with diamond bottom. Other tube has no print at all and the diamond bottom is very hard to see. Have not listened yet, but this makes me a bit uneasy.

Another edit, these test very well and the tube with no print has a fatter O getter than the other one, the tube with perfect print which you can actually feel the printing with your finger is a 67.

@kolkoo , can you confirm these tubes are legitimate Tele ECC801S?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ECC801S-1M...in-Germany-Amplitrex1000-tested/192098418586?

Received mine today as well, that is really quick @ss shipping! Have not had a chance to roll mine, might not be until tomorrow when I roll them!
 
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Look like legit 1967s to me. Here's another one similar code and print:

https://reverb.com/item/8622920-telefunken-ecc801s-tube-1967-nos-vintage-gold-standard-12at7

If it has the fat O-getter similar to the one that tube on the left has in this picture : https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=82151 , then based on my empirical research should be earlier in years yeah.

I personally have never seen a tube with that construction on the net that's not a telefunken. Maybe somebody with more knowledge can chime in.

Edit: I just found this https://jacmusic.com/nos/ECC81.htm and there is apparently according to them a Telefunken ECC801S made for Telefunken in the USA without a diamond? Interesting...

@kolkoo thank you for the information! as I purchased a pair of the Telefunkens as well!
 
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I do have a tester -- BK 700 that Bill refurbished and sold me for now and will be getting the Hickok 752 shortly. :)

I've already purchased the pair, but would be most appreciative of any feedback. It's an ETSY purchase and I've purchased from this seller (Lowtechelec) previously. He listed them as a matched/strong pair and the measurements seemed A-OK to me. Lablels are worn off, but the requisite <> is present. Can't send a link since I've already purchased, but here are some picture snips. Let me know if there are any red flags where I should cancel. (Price was $88/pr.)



Thanks, again.

They look like mine also, so you should be good, they really are good tubes!
 

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