Jason Stoddard
Sponsor: Schiit Audio
I think Jason's position on DSD is unfortunate, for the following reasons.
- It is true that there is far less "pure" DSD material out there, and that it represents an insignificant part of the musical marketplace. But the market for $2K+ or even $500+ DACs also represents an insignificant part of the musical marketplace. Why should it be valid to draw conclusions about the behavior of expensive DAC buyers using data about the behavior of all music lovers? I think it's clear that DSD support is very important to these buyers. Why else is almost every expensive DAC coming out with at least 2x DSD support? Why is there so much attention being lavished on pure DSD players like the Lampizator? In addition, don't forget that a lot of the attraction of a DSD DAC is in the ability to accept upconverted DSD from music players like JRiver, so the story is not just about the availability of DSD tracks!
- Also, DSD is not just "another format". It's fundamentally different. It's not really digital as the term is commonly understood (as requiring computational processing), it can best be seen as an analog/digital hybrid. DSD (1-bit PDM) can theoretically be played-back simply by passing it through simple analog circuits, unlike PCM. It really is a special thing; I consider a DSD file as close to the original analog as a vinyl record. Finally, one should be aware that the raw output of almost all high-end ADCs being used by studios is DSD. Why bother decimating that to PCM when you can just distribute it in its original form and let consumers decide how to play it back?
- Despite that fact that almost all high-end DAC manufacturers are on-board with DSD, it still needs champions to push the format over the hump into widespread acceptance. It's not fair just to sit back and say that once something becomes popular, I'll support it. If you think something is a good idea, go out and pound sand for it. (Now it's clear Jason doesn't think DSD is a good idea, so this is partly a futile request. But people do change their minds!)
Now before I'm flamed, I have to say that I'm not writing this because I don't like Schiit. I greatly admire Schiit products and what Schiit is doing in many ways. I'm writing this because I care about both DSD and Schiit and hope they can just learn to "get along".
Apologies in advance, because this is going to sound like a contentious post. However, I think there's a number of misconceptions we need to clear up here. I've probably addressed all of these points before in various chapters (including Loki,), so if this sounds like a broken record (ha ha), apologies in advance.
1a. I think it's clear that DSD support is very important to these buyers.
Not based on our sales numbers, or on any data except for a couple of anecdotal quotes. Of course, we may be crazy. We'll see how Yggy does.
1b. Why else is almost every expensive DAC coming out with at least 2x DSD support?
The same thing that powered HDCD adoption at the end of Mike's time at Theta: the fact that it's much easier to check off an item on a spec sheet than stand your ground and say, "No, this is wrong." Note that HDCD didn't appear at Theta until Mike was gone. How are your HDCDs doing these days?
1c. Why is there so much attention being lavished on pure DSD players like the Lampizator?
Because if you're going to do DSD, it's best to do it separately, so you can address its own decoding needs. Just as we did in Loki. However, nobody cares about Loki, because it costs about the same as 5 DSD albums, rather than 250.
2a. Also, DSD is not just "another format". It's fundamentally different. It's not really digital as the term is commonly understood (as requiring computational processing), it can best be seen as an analog/digital hybrid.
Actually, DSD requires more math than PCM, as it relies on high-order noise shaping (digital feedback) to push the intrinsic noise of a one-bit PDM signal out of the audio band. It is absolutely a digital format, as the math is done in Z-domain, same as with PCM.
2b. DSD (1-bit PDM) can theoretically be played-back simply by passing it through simple analog circuits, unlike PCM.
Theoretically, all that is required is a very good switch (not easy to implement), followed by very good filtering, including high-order filtering to eliminate the huge stop band noise, and (ideally) a notch at the fundamental sampling frequency. This is not a simple circuit.
2c. It really is a special thing; I consider a DSD file as close to the original analog as a vinyl record.
Analog records actually go through quite a bit of analog signal processing, and are subject to the mechanical vagaries of the cutterhead (again, control systems here).
2d. Finally, one should be aware that the raw output of almost all high-end ADCs being used by studios is DSD.
Actually, the output of the vast majority of studio DACs is PCM. They may use an intermediary format within the D/A converter IC, typically multibit delta-sigma, but it is not PDM.
2e. Why bother decimating that to PCM when you can just distribute it in its original form and let consumers decide how to play it back?
DSD is actually only a mathematically approximated, noise-shaped representation of the original signal.
3a. Despite that fact that almost all high-end DAC manufacturers are on-board with DSD, it still needs champions to push the format over the hump into widespread acceptance.
Actually, the only thing that will push it to widespread acceptance is a deep (and inexpensive) music catalog. The lack of software is what has killed every other alternative format to date.
3b. It's not fair just to sit back and say that once something becomes popular, I'll support it. If you think something is a good idea, go out and pound sand for it. (Now it's clear Jason doesn't think DSD is a good idea, so this is partly a futile request. But people do change their minds!)
Actually, I was the guy who argued for DSD, as you probably read in the Loki chapter. As I mentioned, it's much easier, from a marketing perspective, to check off a feature set, than to argue against it. And, I was successful in getting Mike excited enough to come up with an inexpensive DSD add-on DAC, so that people could try DSD and see if they like it. However, the promised flood of DSD content has not materialized, and prospective customers, by and large, appear to have lost interest in it, based on our inquiries and based on our sales. So, for the foreseeable future, I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree.
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