Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Nov 5, 2015 at 12:12 PM Post #8,536 of 83,209

Pirakaphile

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Aug 10, 2013
Posts
815
Likes
108
As a for-example, there was a new product I was working on over the summer, with an exciting new topology (but not as exciting as what's coming in 2016). There were at least a dozen major design decisions that would affect its performance. The temptation, of course, is to take the high road in all cases. But when you're looking at a (very) cost-constrained product, with some serious limitations on space and heat, there are tradeoffs that have to be made. I took the high road in a couple of those cases, and ended up with a fairly insane level of performance for the product. Could it have been even better? Yes, at 3x the cost and in 6x the space. But that wasn't in the cards. 

(And, I think you'll see that new product before the end if the year)

Limitations on space and heat? Class-A somethingrather then, and space constraint? Asgard size or smaller probably. [[serious]] cost constraint, so.. Asgard, or even Magni-type thing.

What is it? Who cares! I just can't wait to read the FAQ!
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 4:02 PM Post #8,537 of 83,209

KLJTech

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Aug 12, 2008
Posts
1,065
Likes
295
I LOVE the Asgard 2, but I gotta say that if they could somehow kick the power output up about 50% while keeping it fully discrete, "Class A"  I would probably never use another amp. I can't imagine how they could do that without increasing the size of the case or adding extra heatsinks as it would get a good bit hotter as all real "Class A" gear will do. The guys at Schiit always seem to work wonders, so who knows? 
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM Post #8,539 of 83,209

wahsmoh

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 31, 2013
Posts
1,460
Likes
322
Something is coming though. Jason confirmed this. So if you are looking for an amp that costs less than Mjolnir 2 and more in the range of Asgard 2 -> Liquid Carbon pricing I think we should all just be patient and see what rolls out
smily_headphones1.gif

 
Nov 5, 2015 at 5:45 PM Post #8,540 of 83,209

KLJTech

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Aug 12, 2008
Posts
1,065
Likes
295

 
There you go...as long as they're silent or you'd defeat the purpose of having a more powerful, fully discrete, "Class A" amp. I don't care if it heats the room like the old Krell's used to, I'll just crank up the AC. 
 
Maybe Jason will build his version of the Nelson Pass "The Beast with a Thousand JFET's" amp for headphone use...that may require a slightly larger case than the current Asgard 2.  
biggrin.gif
 
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 6:57 PM Post #8,541 of 83,209

audiot

New Head-Fier
Joined
Nov 4, 2012
Posts
44
Likes
20
Head-Fi confessional and future product request:
 
Almost all my listening is through speakers, mostly because my wife and I like the same music and she feels left out if I don't have the speakers on, plus they sound really good so I don't mind at all. I'm still using an older, good quality AV receiver for my speaker amp but would love to see a new Schiit power amp for the "speaker heads" among us. Of course it would have to blow everything else out of the water at the same or higher price point, and it would need to have some magic Schiit mojo inside.
 
Jason, Mike, and Schiit design team: while you're designing this amazing new power amp please also do a Schiit preamp with remote control. I await these new products with bated breath. Please don't let me down!
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 8:31 PM Post #8,542 of 83,209

wink

His amps are made out of recycled beer cans
and his source from tomatos.
Joined
Apr 13, 2009
Posts
20,305
Likes
3,584
Nov 6, 2015 at 6:32 AM Post #8,544 of 83,209

Matias

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 14, 2008
Posts
674
Likes
285
Location
São Paulo - Brazil
Schiit power conditioners?
 
Nov 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM Post #8,546 of 83,209

OddE

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 27, 2014
Posts
602
Likes
220
  Schiit power conditioners?

 
-I am very skeptical of the utility of power conditioners when paired with competently designed power supplies -that is, the power supply should be able to handle whatever the grid throws at it- but one power-related product I'd love to see Schiit make is a 16VAC transformer for the Magni/Modi/Mani in the same form factor - with multiple outputs. Say, rather than having three wall warts cluttering my power outlets, I could just put a Schiit Powah under the stack and use short jumper wires to power the little Schiit.
 
That would be a welcome addition, though I will be the first to admit I am not convinced it would be commercially viable.
 
Nov 6, 2015 at 9:25 AM Post #8,547 of 83,209

jfoxvol

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Posts
758
Likes
421
Location
Knoxville, TN
   
-I am very skeptical of the utility of power conditioners when paired with competently designed power supplies -that is, the power supply should be able to handle whatever the grid throws at it- but one power-related product I'd love to see Schiit make is a 16VAC transformer for the Magni/Modi/Mani in the same form factor - with multiple outputs. Say, rather than having three wall warts cluttering my power outlets, I could just put a Schiit Powah under the stack and use short jumper wires to power the little Schiit.
 
That would be a welcome addition, though I will be the first to admit I am not convinced it would be commercially viable.


Musical fidelity did something similar with their now defunct entry level line of equipment (V-can, V-dac, V-whatever).  You got a wall wart with each but could purchase a brick power supply with independent and isolated sources for up to five of their components.  It was a great idea but the whole line kinda fizzled.
 
Nov 6, 2015 at 10:28 AM Post #8,548 of 83,209

madwolfa

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Dec 12, 2003
Posts
2,993
Likes
1,064
Location
Shawnee, KS
Musical fidelity did something similar with their now defunct entry level line of equipment (V-can, V-dac, V-whatever).  You got a wall wart with each but could purchase a brick power supply with independent and isolated sources for up to five of their components.  It was a great idea but the whole line kinda fizzled.

 
Because it was a ripoff. I'm using a $30 Pyramid PSU from Amazon with my V-DAC II just fine.
 
Nov 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM Post #8,550 of 83,209

madwolfa

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Dec 12, 2003
Posts
2,993
Likes
1,064
Location
Shawnee, KS
  I had a V-Can first edition and was not impressed.  I still have it.  No one wanted to buy it then I lost the PSU for it.  Oh well.  It makes a nice conversation piece.

 
V-CAN was kind of meh. V-DAC is OK.
 
Their X series were great, though! I loved my X-24K DAC with X-PSU and X-CAN V3 amp... my first serious gear, which I happily used with HD600 for almost a decade.
That's before the Schiit bug bit me.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top