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Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

Discussion in 'Jason Stoddard' started by jason stoddard, Jan 23, 2014.
  1. Rensek
    It'll be worth it!!
     
  2. bcowen
    Shoes. It's always shoes.
     
  3. Pietro Cozzi Tinin
    It will ALSO be shoes.
    We'll see him crying here.
    Look at his mother (the avatar) and imagine how demanding his wife will be.
     
  4. NoahFence
    There this cut from Herb Reichert at Stereophile reviewing a $15k pair of speakers:
    Herb Reichert | Nov 27, 2019
    Manger P1 loudspeakers (with Schiit Aegir)
    I did not see this coming: I had just tried the 22Wpc Line Magnetic LM-518IA amplifier ($4450), and it made the Manger p1s sound like a stretch limo with a 4-cylinder engine. Likewise, the Stereo 100 in triode mode produced a kind of underpowered meh effect. Therefore, I had small hopes for what the 40Wpc (into 4 ohms) Schiit Aegir amplifier ($799) might do. But dang me over and over if the two did not dance like Fred and Ginger. The Mangers sounded positively luxurious with the "class-A–like" Aegir, to borrow Schiit Audio's Jason Stoddard's phrase. The $15k Mangers made the $800 Schiit amp sound more refined and sophisticated than it had with any other speakers. In turn, the Schiit amp made the Mangers sound rich and flavorful. Unfortunately, the Aegir-Manger combo was a little short on headroom. Therefore, I'd probably need two Aegirs (each operating in mono) to enjoy the pairing.


    Enjoy! Noah
     
  5. RCBinTN
    Shoes are OK but can't never have enough handbags :)
     
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  6. Roy G. Biv
    I got some nice speaker cables (nice, fat Canare 4S11) from Cables for Less just last week. Tom went above the call of duty working with me and the price was a little over half of what another company charges. Couldn't be happier. :smile_phones:
     
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  7. NoahFence
    ...and then there is this from me--it may be a bit lengthy, but I don't post a lot.

    I didn't notice what preamp Herb was using with those speakers and the Aegir, but I (on a smaller budget than those speakers suggest) would be using the Freya S.

    The Freya S does not get a lot of attention here, and why would one use that instead of the Freya +? Well let's start with the DAC. Mike has noted, despite his great work with Bifrost 2, that the best way to build a DAC is true balanced, so the digital grunge generated by a DAC can just cancel out. So one takes a balanced signal out of gungnir multibit (I like 'gumby' because I know how to spell it) or yggdrasil--and take that balanced signal out to...what?

    Yes one can sum it down to SE, but something is lost in that transition. One can take it to Freya + and deal with 4 tubes--heaven for BCowen but not for me. And out of Freya + one needs two Aegirs*, so the price difference is not $300 but $1100. In contrast I take that balanced signal into Freya S and out to my one Aegir. And the sound ??

    I can't compare it to Freya +. My goto preamp for my best sound for years has been a Headroom Desktop DAP used just as a preamp, 'headDesk' I call it. It has a beefed up outboard power supply, so all together its cost for just the preamp would be about twice as much as the Freya S. Through a Sys I hook this up to the Freya S and the headDesk, feed to Aegir and pair of budget but good speakers. (Sequerras, no longer available.) As I flip back and forth, or come back after being away, I don't know which preamp I am listening through, it really is blind. And I can't reliably tell the difference. I don't claim that either of these pre-amps is the greatest ever, I do say that Jason has now produced a pre-amp as good as I have ever used, versatile, and at half the price! Congrats!

    Now Jason, stop worrying about the cost and build a Nexus in, Continutity out pre-amp! And per your instructions, I am not holding my breath.

    *ed: There is an error involved here. The conversion from balanced to SE with Freya + (and likely the original Freya) does not use summing and apparently has no sacrifice in sonic quality, only in less power. Hence one would not need two Aegirs to get the full benefit of Freya +, as I had thought. I am not a technical person in audio and missed the change in topology. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    Noah
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2019
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  8. Paladin79
    Trying a Lyr 3 with adapter and an ECC 40 Tungsram, a strange little tube with a lot of sound but probably not very well known. Leave it to @bcowen and others to lead me to this tube. Bill if you are around I would be interested in your thoughts, hopefully you have checked yours out by now. I really like the bass especially, mids and highs are quite clean. IMHO
     
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  9. bcowen
    You would have to say something before I had a chance to stash up. Just don't tell @Ripper2860 or the world's remaining supplies will be gone tomorrow. :slight_smile:

    I think 'clean' is a great descriptor, and I agree on the bass -- nice extension, weight, and up in the top echelon in definition. Also throws up an expansive soundstage, perhaps losing a bit of the pinpoint imaging I get out of the Frankie, but an overall 'bigger' sound. I've had too many system changes here of late and haven't given it enough listening to really nail it down with any confidence, but I like what I've heard so far. The Melz 1578 and '50's Fotons have a bit more schwing factor, but again that's preliminary and probably related to the crappy music I like. :relaxed: I've only listened to the French-made Philips so far. I have a couple Valvos that have identical internal construction, and then a Tungsram that is different inside. I'll have to get that in the Lyr and give it a whirl next.
     
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  10. shultzee
    I started out with a single Aegir driving the Salk Song 3's. Sounded amazingly good and could comfortably play at 80db. Liked it so much I added a second Aegir . Very much love the sound of the dual Aegirs with the Salks. I am using a Freya S as a pre.
     
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  11. Ripper2860
    Too late. My computer tube-buyer bots have been updated to include ECC40s ... :wink:
     
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  12. bcowen
    Damnit. :angry:
     
  13. bcowen
    Thanks!
     
  14. hearditontheX
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    I succumbed to the intense pressure from this community to install my new Schiit. I am very happy to report a no tears or smoke install. Behold the crappy photo...

    Listening at low volume with a big smile and cold beer.
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2019
  15. Ripper2860
    JEALOUS!!! :D
     

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