Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
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I just did a lifetime for roon 3 months ago. I love it, but at $700 i would have struggled to justify it. I do believe its worth it, but its difficult to part with 700, plus for me building a ROCK server.

Maybe they should charge $100 for Roon ROCK OS?
 
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God I hate all the nonsense about cables that continues to pollute audio forums. I'll come back when this has run its course. Again.
Interesting. I would have guessed that posts about cats, coffee, whisky, pizza et al. would be what makes one take a break from the forum.

Roon Lifetime price increase, $499 -> $699

$699 is too much for Roon’s lifetime subscription

It’s meant to hurt. It’s meant to reduce sales of lifetimes! If you hate it, the goal is achieved.
The lifetime should not be an end-goal for Roon subscribers, it hurts us as a company and is not a viable business model for our future.
We will eventually eliminate the lifetime entirely. If you have the cash and want the lifetime, go for it while it lasts. If you don’t, the annual is the right thing for you (and for us).
The annual is STILL $119 for a year. That’s $10 a month. If Roon isn’t worth $10 a month to you, then we are doing something wrong and you should go elsewhere. It certainly brings me more joy than $10 every month, and our business vision is to do the same for every one of our subscribers.
Lucky me for ponying up the $499 less than a month ago. It still seems like a big chunk of money, but with most of the well-known software makers going to a subscription model (Microsoft, Adobe, etc.) I can't say that I'm surprised.

One of my better purchases in the last few years was, IIRC, $50 for a lifetime Plex membership.
 
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Time slows down when you get the email from Schiit saying your order has shipped.
@hearditontheX no kidding - i tracked my rggy 2 and yggy gs left during the wildfires first they were Parachute Colorado few days later they were in Walton Kentucky(“nite johnboy”)
 
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Say, any of you boys (and gal) listening to music these days? :smiley_cat:

Since it's raining and snowing here in the New Mexico desert, it's a fine day for long Grateful Dead jams. Later I'll find some Miles or Coltrane, or similar, to melt into the evening. :pray:
Dame Vera Lynn is on the wireless right now singing "Dream."
 
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No, I can't. All of my cables are still cooking. :expressionless:
Once they are al dente you can toss them in a nice red sauce.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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I've got Gerry Lafferty playing over Qobuz right now.

Hoping Mr Stoddard puts out a mid sized Loki one one of these days. The mini works great in the office, but a larger one would fit my home better.

10-12 band, 5-6 per channel, balance control, would be pretty sweet.
Add a phase button. And remote for the balance and phase...
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Try attempting to find electronic component brick and mortar stores---they are all gone. The net is your only source.
Hmm. Up here In Canada we still have The Source (formerly Radio Shack), London Drugs, Best Buy and new kid Memory Express. They all sell stereo equipment. Admittedly, selection is down from a decade ago....

In Alberta we've also got a number of hi-end stores repping Macintosh, Focal, Paradigm, etc. etc. etc. It's not hard to audition everything from $50 Bluetooth speakers to $5000 amps to $50000 speakers.

And most stores will price match Amazon for other things - I've been shopping for Command Strips, and B&M stores often have better prices on that sort of commodity item than Amazon.
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Thank goodness for ignore list
 
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Interesting. I would have guessed that posts about cats, coffee, whisky, pizza et al. would be what makes one take a break from the forum.



Lucky me for ponying up the $499 less than a month ago. It still seems like a big chunk of money, but with most of the well-known software makers going to a subscription model (Microsoft, Adobe, etc.) I can't say that I'm surprised.

One of my better purchases in the last few years was, IIRC, $50 for a lifetime Plex membership.

Yup, to both! To me each has been a great investment. Today's upgrades to Roon look pretty good, and the actual upgrade went off without a hitch - a first!
 
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Yeah, I've been wondering about that repeatedly, that selling lifetime subscriptions can not be a viable business strategy for the company...

Some people will probably be unhappy about this, but in the long run this should be better even though it will cost us more, since it will keep the company alive and the software maintained.
OTOH, they had better have gotten the timing right. If the major players -- the latest of which is Amazon -- decide that Roon isn't going to do much for their business, they may never sidle under that umbrella, which will pretty severly limit the appeal beyond the Tidal-Qobuz-server core (there are a constrained number of John Darko types out there). Little doubt that Amazon's ambitions are to completely dominate the space, and essentially reproduce what Roon is doing, only with its own combination of services, hardware, and partnerships. Heck, they could probably out-Roon Roon itself if they see this strategically as a growing market from which they can derive most of the benefit the more and longer people adopt it. Sort of the Amazon turnpike.

By getting the timing right, it comes down to how much money people will spend with Roon over the next 3-4 years. If they would have made more selling $499 life relationships rather than from short-term users, then in retrospect it may turn out to be a bad move cutting off that spigot prematurely. Should all become clear(er) over the next couple of years.

FWIW, for us, Roon is at best an curious luxury to consider, but not especially appealing since most of the services/sources we use want nothing to do with Roon, and we pulled the plug on our audio content server long ago. While their new wrinkles are interesting (for us, and IMHO crucial for Roon's viability), it's probably nothing that Amazon, Google, Apple, Spotify, etc., could not easily clone if it appears to be helpful for growing their music services user base.

Sorry if this seems depressing, but over my lifetime I've seen way too many innovative small companies rendered obsolete astonishingly quickly by larger, better-capitalized (and in most cases better managed, TBH) incumbents and behemoths.
 
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