Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Nov 6, 2019 at 1:30 AM Post #53,086 of 126,970
Of course. But a billionaire entrepreneur I used to work for taught me to never use my own money for anything if I have the chance to use someone else's at a reasonable cost. :)
That advice comes with two footnotes: 1) Only if you can pay it back in full as soon as the borrowing cost becomes less reasonable. 2) Lenders give amazing low interest to those who can demonstrate they fulfill footnote 1.
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 1:44 AM Post #53,087 of 126,970
My brother-in-law had a red MG when he was dating my sister. After the 3rd breakdown that left them stranded
MG electrical parts, like pretty much all electrical parts of British cars of the time, were made by Lucas Industries. One (or more) of the Lucas line was knighted, leading to a long sequence of jokes about Lord Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 1:50 AM Post #53,088 of 126,970
Not to forget the joke about Lucas Refrigerators being the reason the British drink 'warm' beer…
hahahahahahahaha

JJ
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 2:19 AM Post #53,089 of 126,970
Lucas made electrics for the aircraft industry and were highly respected. The UK government forced them to do the electrics for the auto and motorbike industries as part of their attempt to shore up British manufacturing and exports. Now they were building down to a price, a low low price, instead of up to a quality. Their reputation never recovered.
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Nov 6, 2019 at 2:58 AM Post #53,091 of 126,970
Still 3 available over here in Europe. Just add a different wall wart to adapt to 110V.


Thank you both of you. Only thing is that they don't ship to Singapore (or to other non-European countries) directly too sadly. I am starting to just consider getting something else (will explain in a separate post) as I didn't realise Jil to be more expensive than expected

Well, it works. But it's USB powered so a noisy port affects performance.

Max recording resolution is 16/48. I'm not all that interested in super rez recordings (I've bought some from HDtracks, but either my system is not resolving enough, or I'm not) but I believe in over-sampling at the recording stage so you can do any digital manipulation you like, then saving the final product to Redbook. This does not allow that.

If you set your levels so there's no clipping but no loss of headroom and just save it, don't do any click removal or other post processing, it's ok if your USB port is quiet. If you're trying to clean up a scratchy record or hissy tape, you probably want something that records at a higher bit rate so you can have throwaway bits.

In the end I wanted a Jil.
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Ah thanks for your review, looks like spending a bit more for something that can resolve a bit higher like 24/96 seem like a better idea

Sorry about the Singapore shipping issue, as it works quite well, albeit only on 16bit/44.1 Khz.

No prob, sorry for not specifying earlier
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 3:15 AM Post #53,092 of 126,970
I looked into USB audio interfaces more carefully, and found at least 5 different models that may do the job

24/96

Tascam US-1x2
Zoom U-22

24/192
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (requires additional unbalanced 3.5mm to balanced XLR or TRS cables)
BEHRINGER U-PHORIA UMC202HD (requires additional unbalanced 3.5mm to balanced XLR or TRS cables)
Yamaha AG03 - Audio Interface

I am starting to think perhaps these are more suited for my usage. Only thing is that their documentation do not mention which ADC or USB chip are they using
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 3:18 AM Post #53,093 of 126,970
Thank you both of you. Only thing is that they don't ship to Singapore (or to other non-European countries) directly too sadly. I am starting to just consider getting something else (will explain in a separate post) as I didn't realise Jil to be more expensive than expected

Ah thanks for your review, looks like spending a bit more for something that can resolve a bit higher like 24/96 seem like a better idea
Back at
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sch...bable-start-up.701900/page-3508#post-15275144
Jason said
... AKM pointed us at a nice midlevel analog-to-digital converter, the AK5720, which ain’t gonna compete with, say, a Focusrite Scarlett or even a Schiit Jil in terms of ADC-cool-factor, but is way way way better than what’s in a typical computer ...

Focusrite Scarlett 2i2?

Edit: Missed post while typing :disappointed:

See Hifi recording test (earlier 2i2?) with Behringer comparison
http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html
 
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Nov 6, 2019 at 6:19 AM Post #53,095 of 126,970
Back at
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sch...bable-start-up.701900/page-3508#post-15275144
Jason said


Focusrite Scarlett 2i2?

Edit: Missed post while typing :disappointed:

See Hifi recording test (earlier 2i2?) with Behringer comparison
http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/HFN/ADC/USBrecording.html

Jim Lesurf ! I remember his writing in HiFi News and Records. Always technical and down to earth. I never forget he damped a source component with bubble foil and he measured it improved. Of course ugly as hell (perhaps not a good word choice after last weeks product introduction)

Anyways he is retired as a Professor I believe but he still writes I think:
https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/audio/Analog.html
http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html
 
Nov 6, 2019 at 6:53 AM Post #53,096 of 126,970
Second installment in my loudspeaker odyssey. This time it is Zu Audio and Neat Iota. Head inside the tags:

First up ZU AUDIO: The tl;dr is: I really like these. Longer story is: I didn't hear Dirty Weekends; dunno if the guy didn't have any home or if he just wanted to go for the jugular with the Omen mk II :D No matter, it was a very convincing session. Now, I listen to anything from Mozart over Miles Davis to Motörhead, and easily within an afternoon. So naturally I had to try a bunch of different things. Although I did not get around to any classical, we did cover the area between jazz and death metal nicely. Needless to say the guy liked Art Pepper more than Alkaloid or Obscura. About that last name; that is some quite dense tech death, and one of the few tracks were I feel things weren't absolutely top notch. The soundstage fell apart a bit here, BUT: the room was a glorified walk-in closet annex between the sellers house and garage. So very small. What went well then? Almost everything. First off, the seller was nice and let me fool around with choosing tracks and using the volume control, and stayed in the background which is much appreciated. Source was mainly tidal, with an LP or 2 thrown in. Amps were a couple of Cayin and Audion toob amps.

Impressions: Instruments sounded real, drums were nice and punchy, cymbals were great and well, sounded like a disk of metal being pounded with a stick, not static. Guitar tone nice and present, voices likewise. Although I'd maintain that these speakers to some extent trade power for delicacy, nevertheless did I get some details I knew were present, but with greater clarity than I'm used to (eg the 16 Horsepower track Splinters off the album Secret South has some cymbalwork in the beginning that had greater detail and presence). Another track was In The Morning by First Aid Kit; this track has the 2 sisters singing unison more or less a capella. Probably due to some slight compression this track can have a bit of a hard edge. The dude switched the Cayin amp from ultralinear to triode output and whoosh; hard edge almost gone. Seller played some Krall christmas song, and there was a lot of little "mouth details". If someone tries to tell you that Zu can't do detail, that person is full of schiit. There were oodles of detail and these mothers are musical as all get out. Do I need to mention they can play ridiculously loud?

Rock and metal just works with these speakers, the one track by Obscura mentioned above is pretty dense, also I'm not sure my psychic state (tired, late in the day & the session) didn't play a role here.

Trax I tested with: First Aid Kit - In the Morning; 16 Horsepower - Splinters; Art Pepper - Tin Tin Deo; Alkaloid - Kernel Panic; Alkaloid - Cthulhu; Gorod - Varangian Paradise; Obscura - The Anticosmic Overload; Clutch - Let a Poor Man Be (I think) and Electric Worry... Probably some more, it was a couple of hours, seller also played some stuff, some blues/rock, a bit of Sting, Diana Krall, Five Finger Death Punch (guess he tried to establish a bit of metal cred here, I'd say ho-hum, then again I'm a thrasher :p).

Hoo, boy...

Next is Neat Iota: tl;dr is: Oh, nice. Longer story: Like with the Zu guy, the seller had decided to skip the Alphas, and put the Xplorers up. Let's get it out of the way: These speakers are small! They had the Alphas on display in the window, those were the size of shoeboxes, the Xplorers were the size of 3-4 shoeboxes stacked. Seller had some bull argument about WAF and how changing up from Alphas to Xplorers was likely to end with marital arguments. My wife wouldn't mind, was my response. Listening room was, again, small, about the same size as with Zu. I know I'm in Scandinavia, but what is it with speaker demos in broom closets? Also, this seller was way more hands on, he felt he had to do a lot of splaining, and also turn down the music to ask me (repeatedly) 'Well, what do you think'. I didn't say 'Well, I think you should shut up and hand me that' since I'm generally a polite person, but yeah, I tried to wrest control of the, well, control; and succeeded with that albeit only for a while :-/ Source was again Tidal by way of Roon to a Naim integrated streamer/amp/thingie. So, all solid state.

Now the speakers: Let's get the positives first. These are absolutely great speakers. They are very musical, detailed and throw a nice big, roomy, expansive soundstage. The Heil AMT and midrange driver works gorgeously together. However, and again this might be the room, I felt that the bassdriver arrangement were a bit, I hesitate to say boomy; but a bit loose, undefined. In all actuality, I'm sure it was the room... More on that in a sec. I did manage to get both First Aid Kit, 16 Horsepower and Art Pepper in; same trax as above. The First Aid Kit track had the same hard edge as above (it also has that on my system, so there's that). Cymbals on Splinters by 16HP was actually less detailed than on the Zu, IMO. That surprised me a bit, I was prepared for the AMT to blow my socks off, but nah. Drums on Art Pepper's Tin Tin Deo sounded natural and lively, as they should. Now I didn't feel as relaxed as the day before, and thus only got around to one heavy track. Death - Flattening of Emotions has been a goto for me for years, and it sounded just as it should, nice and punchy double kicks, that was also a track that showed that the bassdrivers in the Iota could be tight and dry.

I can't really dis these speakers; they sound great, are musical, detailed and have a huge stage, whilst being small, unobtrusive and having nice WAF'fy finishes. HOWEVER, IMHO, YMMV, ETC: I felt they were a bit to polite, also I'm really, really, really, really unsure what I am getting from a pair of speakers that cost 4.5 times my current speakers, and almost double up from the Zu Omens. At DKK36000 ($5300 or €4800) that's not a good place to be, and 90 minutes of listening should have convinced me otherwise. Again, I wasn't super relaxed, rather tired, and didn't have the same rapport with this seller as the Zu guy, all these are factors that might have coloured my impressions.

Final thoughts: In the grand scheme of things Zu Omen are in the lead right now (at least when talking speakers I can actually afford). The 'at-home-with-the-seller' feel of the audition also helped me to assess whether I could use the Zu's for the rest of my life (pretty sure I could). The 'car-salesman' experience of the Neat audition did nothing but alienate me. The speakers themselves were nice, but did not do much to convince me what the last 25% of their price tag bought me (apart from VAT :wink:). Both sellers were super willing facilitate some buy and try, with a 14 day window, so that's great. So far I'm leaning towards the Zu though.

Next installment some where in the future: JBL L100 Classic? Audio Note UK? Dynaudio? None decided yet.

Edit: Less = more
 
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Nov 6, 2019 at 7:47 AM Post #53,097 of 126,970
This is a patch bay.

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Same idea, but audiophile patch bays have more purple wires behind the board. Those old telephone ones are all black and white.

FWIW - my limited research (cough, google, cough) tells me that many modern patch bays use TT plugs - from "Tiny Telephone". I guess after 60+ years, if it ain't broke.....

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Nov 6, 2019 at 8:43 AM Post #53,098 of 126,970
MG electrical parts, like pretty much all electrical parts of British cars of the time, were made by Lucas Industries. One (or more) of the Lucas line was knighted, leading to a long sequence of jokes about Lord Lucas, Prince of Darkness.

AS someone who grew up in a town where Lucas was a dominant employers, I would simply point out to you all that :
a) Lucas was American owned, and
b) Made the fuel systems for most of the jet engines in the world at one stage.

:)
 

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