Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
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I doubt if they would with the Texas track so successful. I remember growing up, the May race was the only show. Then they said NASCAR could "never" run at the Brickyard...For me Formula One is the pinnacle of motorsport, I enjoy open wheel racing.
Do you enjoy F1 for the racing? Do you watch Indycar?
 
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Hate to go further OT, but the sport of F1 is only better for those with a financial interest. If you are not Mercedes or a fan, 2019 is an F1 lowpoint. Marginal track limits, no grid girls, no competition for victory, ugly cars, halo, DRS are among the reasons F1 has little interest for me anymore. I find Indycar to provide a far more compelling racing product.
AMEN!

We need more seasons like 2012, 7 different winners in the first 7 races! Man that was an awesome year, and IMHO the last great season of F1... Although Kimi winning at COTA last year has been the highlight for me since... Definitely not happy with the state of F1 and the FIA here recently...
 
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The only race I watch anymore is the Indy500. Josef Newgarden is the Schiit.
Saw it in person (turn four grandstands, 40th row) many times in the 1980's. Spectacular & intense racing.

Burned out on NASCAR when the format changed so much it became a joke.
Went to Talladega several times and Pocono once, pre-restrictor plate days when the pole speeds were ~210mph.
There was nothing timid or boring about NASCAR back in those days ... it was exciting as hell, for us rednecks :)
 
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Do you enjoy F1 for the racing? Do you watch Indycar?
Well, if by enjoying F1 for the racing, it seems that either Lewis Hamilton gets a lead sufficient to come in and change tyres, and remain well in the lead, and short of a Mechanical failure in the Mercedes-Benz, he likely will remain in the lead all the way to the podium--yeah I watch the few races on Broadcast TV.

Indy Car is my bread and butter. My photojournalism career began at Indianapolis, working on a huge team of photographers for the old United Press International. The Month of May, back in the old days was a day to day drama playing out. Then the IRL and CART had their schism, and all the old USAC folks were sent packing with the "rich Tradition" of the famed Brickyard.

They have finally gotten the sponsorship money and the TV time to be interesting, even if driving IndyCars on city streets is a far cry from Monaco. I rather enjoy seeing the 500-mile race, but it is not the Indianapolis 500 without Gomer Pyle singing "Back Home Again In Indiana", and I wish they would not use medical grade Helium to fill thousands of balloons, which litter the Hoosier countryside for months after Memorial Day.
 
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I doubt if they would with the Texas track so successful. I remember growing up, the May race was the only show. Then they said NASCAR could "never" run at the Brickyard...For me Formula One is the pinnacle of motorsport, I enjoy open wheel racing.
Yeah,NASCAR doesn't fit. Big heavy cars with enough power to overcome the inadequate tires they run. Hardly "ultimate" motorsport, and certainly not stock car racing like it used be be... sigh... Nothing stays the same...
 
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I've always felt like Formula One and the whole Indianapolis thing were just historically incompatible with one another. It almost takes a completely different car to be competitive at Indy, ....
Yes, until the Brits took their modified F1 cars to the Brickyard in the 60s
 
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Well, if by enjoying F1 for the racing, it seems that either Lewis Hamilton gets a lead sufficient to come in and change tyres, and remain well in the lead, and short of a Mechanical failure in the Mercedes-Benz, he likely will remain in the lead all the way to the podium--yeah I watch the few races on Broadcast TV.

Indy Car is my bread and butter. My photojournalism career began at Indianapolis, working on a huge team of photographers for the old United Press International. The Month of May, back in the old days was a day to day drama playing out. Then the IRL and CART had their schism, and all the old USAC folks were sent packing with the "rich Tradition" of the famed Brickyard.

They have finally gotten the sponsorship money and the TV time to be interesting, even if driving IndyCars on city streets is a far cry from Monaco. I rather enjoy seeing the 500-mile race, but it is not the Indianapolis 500 without Gomer Pyle singing "Back Home Again In Indiana", and I wish they would not use medical grade Helium to fill thousands of balloons, which litter the Hoosier countryside for months after Memorial Day.
Ok, good, I’m pleased to see you’re not the F1 is the best no matter what type of fan.

Indycar is on a roll now with great cars, great tracks and exciting drivers. I went to the 500 for the first time last year. It was awe inspiring. You might actually like the person who now sings Back Home Again in indiana, Jim Cornelison, while not identical to Nabors, his tone is similar and he sings with gusto. He does a great job.
 
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Yes, until the Brits took their modified F1 cars to the Brickyard in the 60s
The yanks also brought their roadsters to to Monza in the 50s for the Race of Two Worlds.
 
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The yanks also brought their roadsters to to Monza in the 50s for the Race of Two Worlds.
Yeah, but ...
my inference was the appearance of Formula One type cars at Indianapolis was also a game changer, basically killiing off the old front-engined Offy cars; whereas in 1957 when the first of the Race of Two Worlds was run and won by the front-engined Offy cars, the mid-engined Cooper Climax had already made its mark in Formula One. (game changer)
 
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I was a guest behind the screens at the 1985 (last) F1 race in Zandvoort.
It's not for me but I do understand the thrill for some people.
Years later I did some "training" there as a guest for a particular car brand and again that's not for me.
On the racetrack I do not have the steel nerves I have in other situations. (Feeding Constanza fe)
 
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Yes, until the Brits took their modified F1 cars to the Brickyard in the 60s
Colin Chapman, Lotus, Jimmy Clark, and Graham Hill---Indy was never the same, except for Jim Hurtubise, the year he entered a Front engine Roadster, with sponsorship money from Miller Brewing. On the last day of qualification, he opened the engine compartment, and it was full of iced down Miller High Life, the Champagne of Bottled Beer... You can't buy exposure like that anymore. The 1967 Turbine with Parnelli Jones at the wheel, "Whooosh!" Broke on lap 197. STP came back the next year with the Wedge turbine, and USAC said "no more..."

When I was hired at Reuters, it was the result of our coverage of the Indy 500 in 1990. Emerson Fittipaldi had blistering on his Firestones which cost him the race. Arie Luyendyk drove the Domino's Delivers Special to victory, and I went on to work 18 years for the Brits (/Canadians when Thomson bought the company.)
 
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Ok, good, I’m pleased to see you’re not the F1 is the best no matter what type of fan.

Indycar is on a roll now with great cars, great tracks and exciting drivers. I went to the 500 for the first time last year. It was awe inspiring. You might actually like the person who now sings Back Home Again in indiana, Jim Cornelison, while not identical to Nabors, his tone is similar and he sings with gusto. He does a great job.
I did 1990, 1991 and 1992, and then Reuters wanted to cover the Taxi-cab races so I had the Coca-Cola 600 until 2007, when I became disabled. I watch the trifecta Monaco, Indy and Charlotte, right in front of the air conditioner, with Fried Chicken, so I can throw bones at the TV...a NASCAR tradition:astonished:
 
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Yes, until the Brits took their modified F1 cars to the Brickyard in the 60s
I never looked at it like that, but you have a point. It was all front engine cars with supercharged 4 cylinder Offenhauser engines, or homebuilt specials with big v8's when the British cars took over, starting with Lotus.
 
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Yes, until the Brits took their modified F1 cars to the Brickyard in the 60s
I haven't kept up quite as well as I might, but I do believe that most of the Indy cars Were British built. In particular Lola built many of the winners, though not so much these days it seems.
 
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Since we're on cars...

What I Should Have Said About Convergence
Or, a Schiit Happened Mini-Chapter


At CanJam SoCal, I was invited onto a panel where we were asked about the “convergence” of headphone and speaker audio.

I figured this would be an easy panel, because we’d already seen plenty of convergence—that is, we’ve seen our customers move from headphones to desktop monitors to full-blown preamp-amp-and-speaker systems (and sometimes, back again). Convergence was already happening, and in both directions.

What I didn’t expect was this would be more about hand-wringing and worry about how to “move” headphone listeners to speaker systems.

Now, in one way, I get it. Headphone listeners are typically where people start these days, so headphone listeners tend to be younger. And guys with serious high-end systems might be aging themselves out of the market.

But…move?

Maybe it’s because I’ve spent 20 years in an ad agency, and saw the difficulty of getting people to “move” where you want them, or maybe just because Schiit has never had a salesperson of any kind, and “moving” is kinda alien to us, but I found the thought, er…somewhat offensive.

Worse, there was quite a bit of chatter about how to replicate the “speaker experience” on headphones, usually via signal processing, with the implication that speakers were the reference to be emulated.

Huh?

I didn’t really know how to process all of this. Sure, I commented that convergence was already happening, and made the point that I personally enjoyed headphones for what they did well, two-channel speaker systems for what they did well, and home theaters for what they did well, and that was perfectly OK, they all had a place in the world and you didn’t need to make them all work like the other, and that some people would like one or two or all three or none, and that was OK too.

But I missed what I really should have said. Because, driving home from CanJam, I realized what I should have said on that panel.

Here it is:

“Jeep people will never be Porsche people will never be Lexus people…but I guarantee you’d sell a lot more of all three if they cost $10,000.”

Now, I know you think I’ve gone crazy, but the audio and car enthusiast communities are very much the same.

In audio, you have a whole lot of people who experience music all the time, but don’t care very much about quality. These are the people who listen to the earbuds that came with the phone (or just the phone speaker) and who think you’re the weird one when you cringe. Similarly, in cars, there are a whole lot of people who care about cars only for transportation. They’ll buy for utility, or choose not to own a car at all. They’re the ones who look at car enthusiasts as being, well, a bit touched in the head.

In cars, there aren’t just “car enthusiasts.” There are Jeep Wrangler guys and Porsche people and Lexus fans. Now, of course, you might like one or two or all three as well, or something completely different, like old American cars or whatever, but the point is:

All the talking in the world won’t move a Porsche fan to a Wrangler enthusiast. All the charts, all the graphs, all the ads, all the promos, all the spiffs won’t really move a Lexus-uber-alles guy to believe a 911 is the One True Path.

Now, if you have always drove a Wrangler and try a Porsche and decide you like it, that’s a different thing. That’s organic growth based on curiosity. Now, you can decide to enjoy each for what it does well, or you can switch your preference.

But of course, nobody has infinite cash to throw at their hobbies, hence my crack about how we’d have a lot more people who enjoyed all three kinds of cars if they cost $10,000. (We’d also have a bigger total market.)

This works exactly the same way in audio. There aren’t generic “audio enthusiasts.” There are headphone guys and IEM fans and stat enthusiasts and speaker guys and home-theater people…some people may be more than one, and may enjoy each for what it does best. Or they may focus on only one area of audio.

And that reflects much more what we’re seeing amongst our customers. Because most of our stuff is inexpensive, they can experiment. Some stick with headphones. Some try speaker stuff. Some continue with speakers. Some have both speakers and headphones. Some come back to headphones. Some have home theaters too.

We don't need to push "convergence." We just need to make sure the options are affordable…then more people can make their own choice. Or choices.

And everyone wins.
 

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