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Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

Discussion in 'Jason Stoddard' started by jason stoddard, Jan 23, 2014.
  1. saddleup
    then there is nothing left to talk about
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
    the finisher, liamo, US Blues and 4 others like this.
  2. belgiangenius

    I don't think anyone is assuming that we all value these services the same way. I also don't think anyone is trying to tell you how to spend your money.

    The point I'm getting from this discussion is that music streaming is a very personal experience, which everyone views differently. So, I think trying to apply a "one size fits all" pricing scheme to it makes no sense.

    Like I've said, I use Tidal on a very limited basis to supplement my library. I've only kept it current because I've been on a very long trial. But, I'd be much happier subscribing on a pay-per-use basis rather than a monthly subscription.
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  3. dieslemat
    I like this process. Maybe will give up tidal. Switch to spotify and eventually buy albums that i really like over hdtracks or amazon (cd).
    thebmc likes this.
  4. Rattle
    That's what I do, there's only so many good albums IMO. I always buy my favorites wether it's an older CD mastering sacd or a record or Blu Ray audio. I just make my own files.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
  5. Ableza
    I'm excited about the possibility of discovering something new or missing from my library on Qobuz and then being able to buy the download from them. Seems easy-peasy.
    judson_w, Byronb, Charente and 3 others like this.
  6. GumbyDammit223
    It's been decided for me: I'm canceling Qobuz. Tried it last night at home with the Bifrost / Valhalla 2 / HD700's. Didn't play well with the Bifrost in WASAPI exclusive mode so it's a deal-breaker. The quotes above are spot on. I've followed Mr Rick's philosophy ever since my parent's gave me an allowance all those 40-some years ago. Of course then it was LPs at the record store, but now Amazon for sure. Belgiangenius' quote is right as well. What do you currently have for spending that $20 last month? Nothing. I've experienced it, now it's time to move on. Thanks for the memories!
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  7. BagelJoe
    Add in Blues Music Magazine and I'm right there with you @Mr Rick. Something sounds interesting, I listen on Tidal and then purchase in some form if it hits my spot.

    It's OK by me to handle streaming however you choose-listen only thru Spotify, download thru Qobuz with streaming, use Tidal, whatever. Keep your Schiit running the way you want.
  8. RCBinTN
    I personally get a lot of great music recommendations from the "What Are You Listening To Right Now" thread here on Head-Fi.
    It's easy to ask more questions via PM.
    Who knows more about great music than our Head-Fi friends :)

    the finisher, barondla, liamo and 5 others like this.
  9. earnmyturns
    It depends on your music taste, use cases, and budget. I care most for relatively exotic, small label modern jazz and classical, which Qobuz seems better at, and I like the ability to interleave my personal rip library with what the streaming source can supply. After quite a bit of experimentation, I won't use anything but lossless for the systems I listen to at home. Sublime+ costs < 10% of what I spend on new jazz and classical CD and lossless download releases while expanding my library with a lot of exploration possibilities.
  10. earnmyturns
    My goal is to always listen to new music, new artists, and to support them by buying their work and attending their performances. A good streaming service allows me to learn about artists who I've not learned about through my fan networks, reading materials, or live performances. For example, I'm now listening to French jazz violinist Mathias Lévy in his Remembering Grappelli album via Qobuz. Insanely good, but AFAIK he hasn't toured in my neighborhood. Later, I'll set Roon to recommend a stream based on one of these tracks and hear what else shows up that I don't know.
  11. Oveja Negra
    This has been for me by far how I've discovered tons of great artists since I began to surf the Internet :D. That's one of the reasons why I'm so grateful about the "forum concept". Through it I've learn so much about music and myriad of other subjects (something almost impossible to achieve with any other form of current social media).

    Regarding music recommendations, I like to go to Amazon.com, look for an album from an artist that I love and then paying attention below at the section customers also bought these albums. I always find some new gems to add to my music collection :)
  12. earnmyturns
    Depends on how much you spend already on music purchases :wink: Two lossless album downloads on Bandcamp ~ $25. Just on Bandcamp, I spend a lot more than that every month, and I get a lot of other stuff on ProStudioMasters, on CDs, etc. So, the cost of 2 albums/month is a great investment in diversifying my musical explorations.
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  13. ScubaMan2017
    Well said, @Ableza and @Robert Padgett . My high speed internet will come crashing down around my ears the moment we start living full-time on the woodlot. That part of Ontario has 2 carriers: Rogers & Bell. I could run a network using a cell phone service (at a dismal 3-5Mbps download [aweful Mbps upload... ping & latency in the seconds?!]). The nearest cell phone tower is at Miller Lake. My neighbours up there have a bad case of NIMBY about towers... so there's a moratorium on the bloody things. I'll end up having a couple of hard-drives full of tunes -- run my own hermit-kingdom or Soviet-Of-Sound (with apologies to @Baldr ).
    If you ever are in the neighbourhood of the North Bruce Peninsula... and your radios start squealing... and doing the 'numbers station' or the 'Russian Woodpecker'... that might be me. :ksc75smile::ksc75smile::ksc75smile:
  14. alpovs
    It's 2019 and I thought Internet doesn't go down anymore, at least in developed countries. I don't remember when my went down last time. Some years ago. If it does go down it's for a short time for maintenance late at night. Also, usually there is a choice of providers. Choose more stable one.

    I see that 5 people liked your post. Is your Internet provider that bad really?
  15. sam6550a
    You had better believe it. In areas where there is only one provider, the service is abominable. I am a rural dweller, and have a choice of DSL [10 MB max], satellite, or the cell phone network. Satellite is expensive and at the mercy of the weather, the cell phone network averages about 8-10 MB, unless the tower is experiencing high subscriber load, when it then falls to 6 MB or so. 10 MB DSL costs me $115 USD per month, and if the power fluctuates due to weather, the switch goes down and has to be manually reset [the switch has no back up power]. So, we often are off the net, and the customer service folks [if you can ever get to one that does not just read from a script] try to say that the problem is at your end because their network diagnostics say everything on their end is ok, but we can send a tech out to you 4 days from now! Usually, the switch gets reset within 6 to 12 hours, but the attitude is directly related to subscriber density----6 subscribers in a 3 mile area is not attractive to an ISP----they want 50 subscribers in a single building.

    So, yes, some internet suppliers make it impossible to rely on the internet for anything important. Welcome to rural america.

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