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Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

Discussion in 'Jason Stoddard' started by jason stoddard, Jan 23, 2014.
  1. audio philestine
    Seems somehow apropos that the process of restoring a Grateful Dead recording involves some judicious baking:ksc75smile:

    I imagine given the cultural value of the tapes, there were a lot of nervous people carefully watching that oven.
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  2. bagwell359
    Part of it is analog v digital in areas outside of audio. Analog watches (many) vs Casio (oy!), VAC meter analog vs digital. What's the digital meter do at 117.5? The analog just keeps doing what it does. A home weather station, look at the air pressure guage, or the wind direction indicator - NNW with gusts to NE, much prettier in analog.

    Problem with analog besides slow destruction of the media when you use it (slower with a straight line tracker, no inner groove distortion/destruction, probably 1/5th the overall wear per play), and the I'm sorry, but not very good bass performance, and finally the distortion (THD in particular) that gives vinyl its personality/magic. Plus to put together a vinyl set-up I could respect would be over 10k (including used pieces), which I haven't got.
  3. judson_w
    I have nothing against buying newer HD digital copies of stuff. I have bought digital copies of a few that I have on vinyl just because I did not want to deal with the hassle of transferring the vinyl, cutting it into tracks, adding metadata, etc. Most of the tapes I have are things that my dad recorded off of the radio in the 70s and early 80s so finding digital copies of those are nigh impossible. Things like Guy Clark being interviewed or John Stewart talking about his new (at the time) album "Fire in the Wind", both of which were aired on KFAT Radio.
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  4. madwolfa
    Everything you said is absolutely correct. When I want perfection, I fire up my Schiit. When I want an experience - I throw a vinyl.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2019
  5. Miguel Barone
    See the words of Harry Weisfeld:

    A visit to the VPI factory in New Jersey with company founder Harry Weisfeld reveals a massive collection of turntables. Weisfeld is particularly well versed in direct-drive models, especially the classics. His collection includes, among others, the Denon DP-80 and JVC TT-101, as well as other Technics tables. “I believe direct drive is the way to go when it’s done correctly,” he says. “I’ve always been a huge fan of the concept, but you can’t get a belt or a pulley perfect, no matter how hard you try. A belt-drive turntable consists of multiple mistakes and you’re always dealing with multiple tolerance errors. Direct drive eliminates these issues.”


  6. GumbyDammit223
    With all this talk about recording quality, I'd like to upload a track (or part of it for copyright reasons) to have other ears listen to it. To me, it (to use a familiar term) sounds like a$$. I want to say it was mastered so hot it results in distortion, but would love if others could voice their opinions on it. Is there a recommended way to do this that won't cause legal or other issues? Thanks.
  7. audio philestine
    I've seen people post a dynamic range "score" from the DR14 t-meter tool http://dr14tmeter.sourceforge.net/index.php/DR14_T.meter .

    You can also load the track in audacity and grab an image of the amplitude vs time plot. Normal acoustic music will show a lot of variation between the peaks and the valleys, while modern over-compressed music will look like a solid wall.

    Some tools will also show the peak value. If the levels were too hot the peak will be right at 0dBFS. I'd share how I do this, but I assume you don't want my Linux way...

    As far as posting the music... I can't recommend any way to do this that violates copyright.
  8. judson_w
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  9. Miguel Barone
    I think you're talking about the "loudness war" ... the dynamic of the recording is compressed to allow an upper volume in the mix, and that makes sense to listen music in a car or in an inexpensive portable digital player (the normal way for the new generations).

    In a good hi-fi system this recording will sound terrible.

    This happens on digital recordings from 90s and ahead, they take the digital master and make a compressed mix to do the recording on CD or digital file. The new vinyl that's recorded from a digital master usually don't, because vinly must be mixed specially (RIAA equalization and other stuff, it's phiscally limited to upper the volume on vinyl) and obviously the vinyl will not be listened on a portable device.

    I read many topics on internet talking about the LP version sounding better than the compressed CD, even with digital masters.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2019
  10. White Noise
    Funny you guys should talk about mastering, I do mastering for an electronic/idm netlabel. All I can suggest is that you upload a lossless file for others to download, because (speaking as an amateur M.E.) I have yet to hear a streaming service, even a lossless one, even when I make concessions in my master to prevent changes by the streaming service, that spits back out what I put in. And I've checked on all the major ones for electronic and indie music (soundcloud, hearthis, bandcamp, beatport, etc, and hearthis does lossless). It could be there's a more hifi one out there, maybe tidal, but nobody I work with is going onto that platform right now. And I'm of the opinion that a few meters really won't tell you how a master sounds. I purposely use a particular kind of distortion because it can take away some treble energy without actually turning the loudness down too much, making the music much more pleasant at higher volumes. So a thd meter, if there were such a thing, would say that my masters aren't as good as just normalizing the audio, when in fact I need to make some changes to account for the fact that someone *might* want to play EDM a bit louder than 80 db.
  11. bagwell359
    NOW THEY TELL ME! Well, my hands are starting to get a little shaky with the years, so digital is safer than analog for me... If anyone was around me 4 years ago when I snapped a Koetsu that had ~20 hours on it you'll know that when Kirk yelled 'Khannnn!' in ST II, it weren't nothing compared to my uncompressed scream.
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  12. Miguel Barone
    :laughing::laughing::laughing: ... i can imagine that for a while
  13. bagwell359
    I tell a story about an Engineer (not audio) that had this gadget that could inject THD into the music; anal digital -> semi romantic -> suave romantic -> syrupy romantic -> syrup and back again. Hearing that cut across a lot of assumptions - mine and everyone else's. I mean who needs $5k power cords, and $1500/ft speaker cable when you can dab in a little suave liquidity?
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  14. Timster
    ^ This ^
  15. ScottFree
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