Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

Mar 5, 2025 at 9:32 AM Post #184,321 of 186,399
I have tried the lower settings. My SL documentation says 400…Stjarna only goes up to 350…. I’m not (yet) sure I can tell the delta between the two, so for now, all the critical listening has been at 47k. Once I go below 350, there are IMMEDIATELY noticeable deleterious effects… 350 - I *think* I hear subtle discrepancies in the wrong direction? Anyways, next time you’re here you can see what you hear.
MC's can ring, I always damped my MC's pretty heavily, but I have never heard the Hana - so looking forward to it.
As you know from my journey, all along digital had a “place”, but it never surpassed analog because it always just sounded wrong to me in this system. After my great results the Kara and Skoll, I decided to give a good DAC one more try… found a gent here selling his Yggy OG A1 (which was indeed reviewed extremely well in TAS by ears I “trust” from all those years). And now, digital sounds good to me (finally) when “raced” with equivalent vinyl. For the record, it reminds me very much of the Theta sound I had just before I abandoned digital and concentrated on snagging as many great LP’s as possible from all my peers abandoning the format. I do very much regret selling my Theta Data transport (the big old adapted Laser Disc player one - many here will remember it). At that time, Theta was giving me good (enough) sound, it was just that digital was (mostly) still execrable recorded, brick-walls, hash in the time domain, etc…
Yup. Morbidly poor digital recordings/transfers to CD, and DAC/transports in their infancy it was a miserable choice. Finally, the Krell KPS-20i came around, and it actually sounded like music, but I was too deep into analog to bite. The Gungnir MB A1 & Yggy A1 made the path doable, and here I am, happily un-shod of analog (except recordings that don't exist on digital).
Long post to start the day (heck it’s raining and muddying so no long dog walk), but those kinds of exposures, as well as Stjarna in my system, are precisely why I am looking forward to hearing your very excellent Philharmonic BMR’s in my room. Because my Classe’ DR9 amp is NOT going to last, nor will the suspension on my Duettas. They are extremely synergistic with each other. Yes, if the DR9 dies first, I could replace with a Wotan, and I’m quite certain (based on my Schiit experience to-date) that Wotan would be quite excellent with the Duettas… but then, when THEY fail, I must replace with something, no? Perhaps then might be time to switch to tubes driving dynamics? 🤷‍♂️ If the speakers die before the amp, I’ll price and suss out the ribbon replacement cost and effort (looks like around $2500 for ribbons, and it’s easy to do the Midrange/Tweeter ribbon, but word is, the bass ribbons a grade a beotch)…

I need more live music. Have had NONE in 3 years since coming back from Texas. Living in greater Austin it was easy, peasy… almost more clubs for music than churches down there, LOL.
When funds become available looks like a Kara & Wotan will be the way for me. I considered estat headphones and a better than BHCs tube driving high impedance cans - such as ZMF's - but between the expense and non repairability of estats and the fact I have listened to headphones for 2 minutes since I got the BMR's - it seems obvious to improve the chain for the BMR's, and blow off the cans.

Reports of the new ribbon tweet for the Duetta with an outboard xover biamped is supposed to be a major improvement. But, those boys of yours are awfully long in the tooth. Get a pair of BMR towers and audition an amp - price wise don't think you can get a tube to match a Wotan, but if you get to the $5k range maybe (but be prepared to bleed for matched NOS tubes). For me, I solve the musicality of an SS chain with an R2R DAC, which you do too, plus the analog source. Getting a tube amp that will deliver the 20-60 Hz range of the BMRs properly would be costly. Note: Duettas have a magneostat for the low range driver.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 9:35 AM Post #184,322 of 186,399
Hemp might even be a better choice. :smile_cat:
It was grown to make rope and other products as well as paper. Some has a low THC content that is still grown today.🤪 extremely fast growing compared to some materials.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 9:42 AM Post #184,323 of 186,399
This am, Charleston Coffee Brewers, Breakfast Blend, mildly sweet and awesome, listening to Spyro Gyra's Love and Obsessions CD. Wonderful.

Using ZMF Verite Closed back, dynamic cans, 300 ohms, with Vali 3 and back to the STOCK tube!
Superb.

It punches very well amongst the much more high dollar "big" boys!!
A $149 Steal from Jason Stoddard!
Designed and Built in the USA!

:>)

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Mar 5, 2025 at 10:40 AM Post #184,325 of 186,399
It was grown to make rope and other products as well as paper. Some has a low THC content that is still grown today.🤪 extremely fast growing compared to some materials.
The US Gov't made a film called "Hemp For Victory" in 1942 or so to encourage midwestern farmers to grow more hemp to made rope and cordage for the military. I believe your State figured prominently in the film. :smiley_cat:
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 10:42 AM Post #184,326 of 186,399
I don't do streaming services; very tempted by Qobuz but last summer's attempt to use it left a sour taste.
Sorry to hear that. I find both Qobuz and Tidal are exceptionally easy to use with my dedicated streamer. What problems did you have, if you don't mind reiterating? Both services have been improving w/r/t performance (Qobuz) and sound quality (Tidal), would you try again?
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 10:42 AM Post #184,327 of 186,399
Isn't AES/EBU also a form of S/PDIF?
S/PDIF is based on the AES/EBU or AES3 standard. Whilst being interchangeable on the protocol level, they define different signalling levels and impedances.

AES3 is capable of long range connections. Up to 150m balanced and even longer as unbalanced AES-3id with 75ohms coxial cables and BNC connectors which are common in broadcasting.

Often S/PDIF sources work fine on AES inputs with short distance cabling. Not always though.

Don't know about AES sources on S/PDIF inputs. The higher voltages might be dangerous.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 10:44 AM Post #184,328 of 186,399
Mar 5, 2025 at 11:02 AM Post #184,329 of 186,399
2025, Chapter 3
More F’n Changes


We’re moving really fast this year, so it’s time for a short omnibus chapter to catch everyone up.

How fast?


Gjallarhorn F(ast)


Well, we almost just launched a product without photos. Oh, and without silver finish, though silver existed before.

I’m talking about Gjallarhorn F. This is a Gjallarhorn. With a Forkbeard option.

It’s the same price as the old Gjallarhorn, has the same gain, the same measurements, the same power output, is about 99% the same parts. It’s the same amp, period, but now with Forkbeard. And a button on the front to put the amp in Standby.

Now, don’t get super excited about Standby. Gjallarhorn F uses very little power. Standby doesn’t do much for you there. But it’s a nice fast way to mute the system, even if you aren’t gonna use Forkbeard.

But now, you can combine Gjallarhorn F with Saga 2 for a very affordable, all-Forkbeard system. And yeah, I know, you still want an affordable DAC to stack with Gjallarhorn and Saga 2 for full Visual Volume capability. We hear you. Please bear with us for a little while longer.

The order for silver metal is already in. Sorry for the oversight. In the meantime, imagine Gjallarhorn with a button on the front and a Forkbeard port in the rear. And you can order one right now, if you’d like.


Straight Outta Asgard

Sharp-eyed readers have probably noticed another change on the site: Asgard is gone!

Oh my! What gives? Asgard was our first product, and all three generations (as well as the offshoot, Pietus) have been really excellent headphone amps. However, we have to be realistic. And with Midgard in the mix, Asgard needs to provide some exceptionally compelling reasons for existing.

Especially since Pietus will continue. Talk to Nitsch. They’ll be back in stock soon.

“But I want an Asgard!” someone says. “I like the way it sounds. I like the all-in-one option with a DAC card. I like the heavier chassis, the internal transformer, all that stuff.”

And we hear you.

Here’s the thing: Asgard evolved from a really weird outlier of an amp—Class A, single-ended, no-feedback—to something much more in the mainstream. Higher power, yes. More capable, yes. And, yes, it did debut our groundbreaking Continuity™ output stage.

Now, with the success of Mjolnir 3, we keep wondering if we shouldn’t look back to where Asgard was in the past, to make it something truly different than, say, Midgard or Jotunheim. We’re wondering if we shouldn’t apply some of the beautiful new design that we’ve been experimenting with on Valhalla 3 to create something as timeless and striking as the original Asgard, but updated for a new era. And it is our 15th anniversary year.

Interested? Have other ideas? Leave it dead? Let us know. We’ll listen.


Forkin’ Urd

“Hey, Urd’s gone too!” someone cries.

Yep.

This one was simple: we made the rest of the Urds we had, and they sold out much faster than expected. So it’s going to be gone for a while.

Why? Mainly Forkbeard. Urd is the poster child for Forkbeardification, given its complex feature set and extensive capabilities. But Forkbeardifying Urd is not an easy overnight job. In fact, in light of advancements like Unison 384, it’s something we should take a longer, harder look at, and perhaps make more significant changes.

So, like Asgard, we’re going to take a more in-depth look at this one. We’ve had a ton of internal discussion about this, and there are two camps emerging:
  • Update Urd for Forkbeard and Unison 384, but basically keep it its same unique thing: a Unison USB hub and CD transport. Price might go up a bit for Unison 384. The logic for this is that we have something unique and cool, why change?
  • Strip it down, make it simple, go minimalist. Make it just a CD transport. Go to a top loading mechanism to reduce cost (and size—a top loader could be Asgard sized, not Freya sized.) The logic for this is that more and more of our DACs will end up with two USB inputs, so maybe USB management isn’t needed as much as we thought (or it could be a stack or module—Forkbeard means we don’t have to have everything in the same chassis.)
So, like Asgard, what do you think? Complex or simple? Or just do another run of the non-Forkbeard version so you can get yours faster? Or something else entirely?

I’m interested to hear what you think.


The Tail of Stjarna and Forkbeard

So, some of you have been able to hear what Forkbeard Bluetooth transmission sounds like with your Stjarnas. This isn’t what we intended, but with the huge variability in tubes, the ultra-high gain, and the necessarily open-frame construction of a tube product, you can sometimes hear something like a low sputtering that’s right at the level of the noise floor. This is highly variable between tubes and tube types, and does not happen at all in some cases.

Interestingly, this noise isn’t measurable by the APx—it’s buried in the noise. But you can hear it in some cases, but only when the Forkbeard module is plugged in.

Also interestingly, the Skoll F, with higher gain, displays none of this interference. This is simply a case of decades-old tube tech that was never designed for GHz RF transmission nearby.

We’ve looked into ways to kill this, without changing the performance of Stjarna. The best, and least invasive, solution is simply to move the Forkbeard module away from the chassis a bit.

“Neat trick when it plugs into the chassis!” someone says.

Yeah. That’s why we created an extender for the Forkbeard module. We have ugly working prototypes right now, and we’ll have nice finished products in a couple of weeks. This will allow you to move your Forkbeard module away from the chassis and eliminate interference.

I also understand if this solution isn’t for you, and you want to return your Forkbeard module (or even your whole Stjarna.) Just contact orders@schiit.com and we’ll get you taken care of.

Otherwise, expect to see an extender shipping to you soon. It’ll be properly keyed so that it can only insert one way on either end.


Valhalla the Third

We recently previewed Valhalla 3 at CanJam, and people were thrilled…with the way it sounded, and the way it looked. I was a bit surprised at the strong reaction, given that it was $100 more than the outgoing Valhalla 2 at its last retail price, and a full 2x the cost of Valhalla 2 on closeout.

(Valhalla 3 is $499, for those not enjoying the mental math.)

But maybe I shouldn’t have been surprised. The original Valhalla debuted at $349, in a much simpler and cheaper era. In June 2010 we got our first order ever…and it was for Valhalla, a product we hadn’t finished yet.

Today, Valhalla 3 offers much higher capability, has modern protection features, is DC in and DC out (insane for a pure tube amp), and takes a lot of its sound and design from Folkvangr, our legendary limited-production 10-tube ticket to the funny farm we did a few years ago.

Unlike Folkvangr, Valhalla 3 isn’t intended to be limited production. So if you want one, you should have some time to make a decision (Valhalla 2 was around for 13 years!)

“So where is it?” people ask.

And I get to go back to Jason’s Law and say, “Soon.” If everything aligns, maybe the end of this month. But you know that every date I give is wrong. What I can say is that we have metal (both black and silver finishes), and we’re only waiting for boards.

When it hits, I hope you enjoy.

valhalla 3 background.jpg


Aaaand…that’s it for the moment. More to come soon, including a chapter on our (perhaps controversial) new ads.
 
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Mar 5, 2025 at 11:03 AM Post #184,330 of 186,399
The US Gov't made a film called "Hemp For Victory" in 1942 or so to encourage midwestern farmers to grow more hemp to made rope and cordage for the military. I believe your State figured prominently in the film. :smiley_cat:
It did but Indiana was not always my state.🤪 I was born and raised in the land of Lincoln, I moved here because it was a hotbed for electronics at the time and not a long drive to see my or my wife’s parents.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Post #184,331 of 186,399
Update Urd for Forkbeard and Unison 384, but basically keep it its same unique thing: a Unison USB hub and CD transport. Price might go up a bit for Unison 384. The logic for this is that we have something unique and cool, why change?
  • Strip it down, make it simple, go minimalist. Make it just a CD transport. Go to a top loading mechanism to reduce cost (and size—a top loader could be Asgard sized, not Freya sized.) The logic for this is that more and more of our DACs will end up with two USB inputs, so maybe USB management isn’t needed as much as we thought (or it could be a stack or module—Forkbeard means we don’t have to have everything in the same chassis.)
So, like Asgard, what do you think? Complex or simple? Or just do another run of the non-Forkbeard version so you can get yours faster? Or something else entirely?

I’m interested to hear what you think.
I'd buy a stripped down Urd with Forkbeard. I've never used my Urd for USB switching other than to see that it works. In fact, I'm using the AES output into Yggy instead of USB. I'll be first in line for the FB upgrade for Yggy because I would like to have two USB inputs.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 11:14 AM Post #184,332 of 186,399
2025, Chapter 3
More F’n Changes


We’re moving really fast this year, so it’s time for a short omnibus chapter to catch everyone up.

How fast?


Gjallarhorn F(ast)


Well, we almost just launched a product without photos. Oh, and without silver finish, though silver existed before.

I’m talking about Gjallarhorn F. This is a Gjallarhorn. With a Forkbeard option.

It’s the same price as the old Gjallarhorn, has the same gain, the same measurements, the same power output, is about 99% the same parts. It’s the same amp, period, but now with Forkbeard. And a button on the front to put the amp in Standby.

Now, don’t get super excited about Standby. Gjallarhorn F uses very little power. Standby doesn’t do much for you there. But it’s a nice fast way to mute the system, even if you aren’t gonna use Forkbeard.

But now, you can combine Gjallarhorn F with Saga 2 for a very affordable, all-Forkbeard system. And yeah, I know, you still want an affordable DAC to stack with Gjallarhorn and Saga 2 for full Visual Volume capability. We hear you. Please bear with us for a little while longer.

The order for silver metal is already in. Sorry for the oversight. In the meantime, imagine Gjallarhorn with a button on the front and a Forkbeard port in the rear. And you can order one right now, if you’d like. schiit.com/products/gjallarhorn-f


Straight Outta Asgard


Sharp-eyed readers have probably noticed another change on the site: Asgard is gone!

Oh my! What gives? Asgard was our first product, and all three generations (as well as the offshoot, Pietus) have been really excellent headphone amps. However, we have to be realistic. And with Midgard in the mix, Asgard needs to provide some exceptionally compelling reasons for existing.

Especially since Pietus will continue. Talk to Nitsch. They’ll be back in stock soon.

“But I want an Asgard!” someone says. “I like the way it sounds. I like the all-in-one option with a DAC card. I like the heavier chassis, the internal transformer, all that stuff.”

And we hear you.

Here’s the thing: Asgard evolved from a really weird outlier of an amp—Class A, single-ended, no-feedback—to something much more in the mainstream. Higher power, yes. More capable, yes. And, yes, it did debut our groundbreaking Continuity™ output stage.

Now, with the success of Mjolnir 3, we keep wondering if we shouldn’t look back to where Asgard was in the past, to make it something truly different than, say, Midgard or Jotunheim. We’re wondering if we shouldn’t apply some of the beautiful new design that we’ve been experimenting with on Valhalla 3 to create something as timeless and striking as the original Asgard, but updated for a new era. And it is our 15th anniversary year.

Interested? Have other ideas? Leave it dead? Let us know. We’ll listen.


Forkin’ Urd

“Hey, Urd’s gone too!” someone cries.

Yep.

This one was simple: we made the rest of the Urds we had, and they sold out much faster than expected. So it’s going to be gone for a while.

Why? Mainly Forkbeard. Urd is the poster child for Forkbeardification, given its complex feature set and extensive capabilities. But Forkbeardifying Urd is not an easy overnight job. In fact, in light of advancements like Unison 384, it’s something we should take a longer, harder look at, and perhaps make more significant changes.

So, like Asgard, we’re going to take a more in-depth look at this one. We’ve had a ton of internal discussion about this, and there are two camps emerging:
  • Update Urd for Forkbeard and Unison 384, but basically keep it its same unique thing: a Unison USB hub and CD transport. Price might go up a bit for Unison 384. The logic for this is that we have something unique and cool, why change?
  • Strip it down, make it simple, go minimalist. Make it just a CD transport. Go to a top loading mechanism to reduce cost (and size—a top loader could be Asgard sized, not Freya sized.) The logic for this is that more and more of our DACs will end up with two USB inputs, so maybe USB management isn’t needed as much as we thought (or it could be a stack or module—Forkbeard means we don’t have to have everything in the same chassis.)
So, like Asgard, what do you think? Complex or simple? Or just do another run of the non-Forkbeard version so you can get yours faster? Or something else entirely?

I’m interested to hear what you think.


The Tail of Stjarna and Forkbeard

So, some of you have been able to hear what Forkbeard Bluetooth transmission sounds like with your Stjarnas. This isn’t what we intended, but with the huge variability in tubes, the ultra-high gain, and the necessarily open-frame construction of a tube product, you can sometimes hear something like a low sputtering that’s right at the level of the noise floor. This is highly variable between tubes and tube types, and does not happen at all in some cases.

Interestingly, this noise isn’t measurable by the APx—it’s buried in the noise. But you can hear it in some cases, but only when the Forkbeard module is plugged in.

Also interestingly, the Skoll F, with higher gain, displays none of this interference. This is simply a case of decades-old tube tech that was never designed for GHz RF transmission nearby.

We’ve looked into ways to kill this, without changing the performance of Stjarna. The best, and least invasive, solution is simply to move the Forkbeard module away from the chassis a bit.

“Neat trick when it plugs into the chassis!” someone says.

Yeah. That’s why we created an extender for the Forkbeard module. We have ugly working prototypes right now, and we’ll have nice finished products in a couple of weeks. This will allow you to move your Forkbeard module away from the chassis and eliminate interference.

I also understand if this solution isn’t for you, and you want to return your Forkbeard module (or even your whole Stjarna.) Just contact orders@schiit.com and we’ll get you taken care of.

Otherwise, expect to see an extender shipping to you soon. It’ll be properly keyed so that it can only insert one way on either end.


Valhalla the Third

We recently previewed Valhalla 3 at CanJam, and people were thrilled…with the way it sounded, and the way it looked. I was a bit surprised at the strong reaction, given that it was $100 more than the outgoing Valhalla 2 at its last retail price, and a full 2x the cost of Valhalla 2 on closeout.

(Valhalla 3 is $499, for those not enjoying the mental math.)

But maybe I shouldn’t have been surprised. The original Valhalla debuted at $349, in a much simpler and cheaper era. In June 2010 we got our first order ever…and it was for Valhalla, a product we hadn’t finished yet.

Today, Valhalla 3 offers much higher capability, has modern protection features, is DC in and DC out (insane for a pure tube amp), and takes a lot of its sound and design from Folkvangr, our legendary limited-production 10-tube ticket to the funny farm we did a few years ago.

Unlike Folkvangr, Valhalla 3 isn’t intended to be limited production. So if you want one, you should have some time to make a decision (Valhalla 2 was around for 13 years!)

“So where is it?” people ask.

And I get to go back to Jason’s Law and say, “Soon.” If everything aligns, maybe the end of this month. But you know that every date I give is wrong. What I can say is that we have metal (both black and silver finishes), and we’re only waiting for boards.

When it hits, I hope you enjoy.

valhalla 3 background.jpg

Aaaand…that’s it for the moment. More to come soon, including a chapter on our (perhaps controversial) new ads.
Simple top load CD transport please! And a fifteenth Anniversary FM Tuner would be great too.
 
Mar 5, 2025 at 11:20 AM Post #184,333 of 186,399
Simple top load CD transport please! And a fifteenth Anniversary FM Tuner would be great too.
No FM.

I know 2 things about FM: jack and crap.

You don't want me designing a tuner.
 
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Mar 5, 2025 at 11:23 AM Post #184,335 of 186,399
That’s why we created an extender for the Forkbeard module. We have ugly working prototypes right now, and we’ll have nice finished products in a couple of weeks. This will allow you to move your Forkbeard module away from the chassis and eliminate interference.
Hi, Jason. I have a Stjarna on order right now. Is the plan to hold onto pending orders to wait for the finished extender, or send them out and mail the extender when it's ready?
 
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