Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Nov 11, 2024 at 9:22 AM Post #171,451 of 174,671
Thanks to the discussion a few pages back on REW/Audyssey, I stumbled across something from Denon on AVSForum that is 100% opposite of how Schiit approaches things. Apparently, in 2022, someone using REW discovered Denon used an incorrect calculation for the speed of sound in Audyssey (300m/s vs 340m/s) which resulted in incorrectly measured speaker distances and therefore incorrect room corrections. Ruh roh! Denon eventually fessed up and corrected it in 2022 and later models. The crap thing is that they did not issue any firmware updates for older systems, despite doing so would be trivial, making a BS and lame statement about processors not able to calculate etc. that was simply not true. Mine is a ~2018 model that received updates through 2022, so this is especially irksome and wouldn't have cost them anything. Worse, their recommendation was for users to pay US$199 for the full Audyssey app which has the correction already baked in!

Luckily, a simple fix is to take the incorrect distance numbers and multiply them by .875 and manually enter them. I will think twice before buying another new Denon/Marantz amp given this poor response to flawed software with a clear negative impact that should have been easily and quickly fixed. I played some music before the calculation change and after, and the difference was noticeable, like when an optometrist switches testing lenses during an eye exam: one is definitely clearer and sharper than the the other. Not by a lot, but it's there.

Late this morning a close friend came by. He's a trained classical musician who back in the day was one of the few students taken on by the same professor who trained Wynton Marsallis. This is all to say that he has a good ear. I wanted to get another set of ears on my system because my ears aren't perfect, tinnitus and all. He had heard my setup before with an earlier and poorer Audyssey configuration and thought it "OK-ish". I also hadn't had the Gungnir Multibit, Freya N with the PSVANE Horizon tubes, and the Lokius in the chain last time. This time we set the speakers back to to 2.1 mode with my mid-tower Wharfedales being the main speakers and again played his reference tracks while he sat in the prime listening spot. He said the stage, clarity, and space between instruments and voices was the best he's heard, and he noted the realism in the cymbals, and the percussive sounds as guitar players played their chords. Vocal reproduction really impressed him. He had noted the realism when the Schiit components were in the headphone stack and those components, combined with my attention to the room, brought it all together.

There's more I want to do, but I think I might be getting into diminishing returns territory.

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Many of our test subjects are trained classical musicians as well as budding audio engineers. It makes for a good mix when people know precisely how specific instruments and music should sound. Naturally many have heard my home audio systems and offered opinions.😁
 
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Nov 11, 2024 at 9:56 AM Post #171,452 of 174,671
Nov 11, 2024 at 10:16 AM Post #171,454 of 174,671
My marriages lasted 10, 4, and 30 years and counting. Why did the current (and last) one stick? Because I married a person who is also my best friend and not just a sex/finance partner.
 
Nov 11, 2024 at 10:21 AM Post #171,455 of 174,671
The German word for marriage is Ehe.
E - h - e
Errare humanum est.
Going from Latin to English the word “sat” in Latin means enough. From it we get satire, sate, satisfy, satiated etc. Just a little etymology.😜

I need to get busy, I hope to ship music CD’s to Sam tomorrow and maybe the switch box to Adam. I already switch S/pdif between my main system and my Martin Logan computer setup so dropping in this box to test is simple.
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Nov 11, 2024 at 12:31 PM Post #171,456 of 174,671
I can reverse enginner the icons for the inputs on say an Yggy if I need to, and because I did the physical hookups, I know what's coming in over optical vs coax.

That's not going to work for my wife or any houseguest.

If the labels in the stack are Vali 3, Midgard, Syn and Gjallarhorn , that doesn't help her either. WE Schiitizens know what those are, but she does not. She needs to see "tubed h/p amp", "s/s h/p amp", "multichannel amp" and "speaker amp". Or something like that. Otherwise I have to make a cheat-sheet on paper to help her. Which kinda undermines the glamor of the smart, self-actualizing remote.

OTOH, she doesn't use my audio music system at all, partially because she finds it too complicated. Some would say that's not entirely a bad thing. I say nothing, because I have been married for 43 years.

Indeed, sir!

I’m hoping Forkbeard quells my bride of 32+ years fears of messin’ with hubby’s stereo… odd’s are 50/50

I'm with you guys for the same reason and hoping for something even more simplified for inexperienced users. Why not select an icon for CD, streamer, or turntable and have Forkbeard set the proper connections? The person who sets up the system would have to designate the chain of components in a sub-menu, but that should only happen once unless there were changes.

My wife is definitely not stupid or incapable. She just deals better with people than hardware. I'm the other way around, so we're a good match. ☺️
 
Nov 11, 2024 at 2:03 PM Post #171,457 of 174,671
The German word for marriage is Ehe.
E - h - e
Errare humanum est.
I always found the delta between “Marriage” (Ehe) and “Married” (Verheiratet) to be fascinating, how the word for “state” is so different from the Noun version…

(Guess that’s why so few people outside of Germans, learn German)?
 
Nov 11, 2024 at 2:12 PM Post #171,458 of 174,671
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Final testing right now, it will end up with a Schiit silver knob but I do like this combo. Oh and I need to mark the inputs and outputs etc.
 
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Nov 11, 2024 at 2:20 PM Post #171,460 of 174,671
Nov 11, 2024 at 2:26 PM Post #171,461 of 174,671
I always found the delta between “Marriage” (Ehe) and “Married” (Verheiratet) to be fascinating, how the word for “state” is so different from the Noun version…
That's because they're not a state and a noun version of the same term, but because they're two different terms.
English has a similar thing going on with wedded (English for "verheiratet") and marriage (English for "Ehe").
The first is the past tense of the act of uniting two households, the second one is the state.
 
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Nov 11, 2024 at 3:23 PM Post #171,462 of 174,671
Adam it is all set for your felt pads, inputs are I and II, output is O. That is your manual, it’s more than Cowen ever got🤣🤣IMG_8589.jpeg
 
Nov 11, 2024 at 3:46 PM Post #171,464 of 174,671

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