Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Nov 7, 2024 at 8:57 PM Post #170,986 of 178,749
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:04 PM Post #170,987 of 178,749
I'm willing to wager that a pair of Tyrs would make upper-echelon B & W speakers sing their hearts out. Let's ask @dstrimbu when he comes back around. :smile_cat:
Hi guys, I'm back. Thanks for noticing me. <g>

Yessir, you are absolutely correct, and the Tyren never even get warm. The 804 D3s can be a bit bright, but I'm taming that with 1.) careful speaker positioning, 2.) room treatments and 3.) Loki Max (when all else fails).

Also I can not stress the value of well-placed room treatments. I usually run with four ASC 16x3 TubeTraps; 2 in the corners behind the speakers and subs, and two of them positioned against the room's sidewalls at the speaker's first reflection point. I pulled them out of main listening room last weekend while cleaning, and the sound went to hell immediately. The bass got boomy and the midrange got congested. The high-end sparkle and "air" that this this system normally delivers simply collapsed.

It sounded like the room suddenly got 2 feet narrower. Why? In my experience, the TubeTraps don't just cancel boom, but they also add apparent "air" to the room through careful (rotational) alignment of their treble-range diffuser side. Simply turning the traps to align the diffuser-side makes my room sound "wider". (of course... YMMV)

I put them back in their places and... wow. Back to sounding great!

I wouldn't have believed any of this if I hadn't heard it. I couldn't believe the difference. But I digress. I have a lot of pages to get through!
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:11 PM Post #170,988 of 178,749
I have every confidence that the ForkMaster* will make intelligent design decisions, unlike this one. 🤣

(* For Martin's (un)official new title, the committee voted overwhelmingly for ForkMaster, which I too prefer over MasterBearder :laughing:)
Not ForkMeister given the DE connection?
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:11 PM Post #170,989 of 178,749
Hi guys, I'm back. Thanks for noticing me. <g>

Yessir, you are absolutely correct, and the Tyren never even get warm. The 804 D3s can be a bit bright, but I'm taming that with 1.) careful speaker positioning, 2.) room treatments and 3.) Loki Max (when all else fails).

Also I can not stress the value of well-placed room treatments. I usually run with four ASC 16x3 TubeTraps; 2 in the corners behind the speakers and subs, and two of them positioned against the room's sidewalls at the speaker's first reflection point. I pulled them out of main listening room last weekend while cleaning, and the sound went to hell immediately. The bass got boomy and the midrange got congested. The high-end sparkle and "air" that this this system normally delivers simply collapsed.

It sounded like the room suddenly got 2 feet narrower. Why? In my experience, the TubeTraps don't just cancel boom, but they also add apparent "air" to the room through careful (rotational) alignment of their treble-range diffuser side. Simply turning the traps to align the diffuser-side makes my room sound "wider". (of course... YMMV)

I put them back in their places and... wow. Back to sounding great!

I wouldn't have believed any of this if I hadn't heard it. I couldn't believe the difference. But I digress. I have a lot of pages to get through!
This is the way.

I’ve only dabbled with a small amount of treatment. A friend has heavy treatment in a studio. It can get pricey but it makes a big difference. It’s that WAF in a living room setting that’ll get ya (me) every time.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:12 PM Post #170,990 of 178,749
What's a "LIUING AOOM"? 🤪 and is "MY ORC" a Lord of the Rings thing? 😁
Yeah, me too… but I’m likely not the font demographic, what with being presbyopic and all…

Nonetheless… seriously cool Schiit
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:14 PM Post #170,991 of 178,749
I buy other gear just to get away from that font!!🤪🤪🤪
Kidding, I care more about the sound, mostly tube sound.
Ever, and always, about the sound. Does it do the “live/you are there or they are here” emotion?” If so, winner, if not, move on.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:17 PM Post #170,992 of 178,749
My tipple this evening, along with Dame Bassey...
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Nov 7, 2024 at 9:17 PM Post #170,993 of 178,749
Use a cursive font, and only those over 55 years old will be able to use it. That keeps the complaining GEN?? folks away.

Epic, and so very well timed.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:17 PM Post #170,994 of 178,749
Each Forkbearded piece of Schiit comes with one of these:

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Make sure it isn’t the Label Baby Junior - they’ll be peeling off in no time.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:26 PM Post #170,995 of 178,749
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:34 PM Post #170,996 of 178,749
I have and love those. Listening at low levels is a delight! And good for domestic tranquility.
It's intelligibility of voices at very low volumes that is the standout among many traits - like no midbass when there isn't any.

I had them on a 26.5" stand that was spindly, got a beefy 22" stand but w/ wall to wall the mids are getting swallowed, even tilted up to listening position. Shart. I'll figure it out.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:35 PM Post #170,997 of 178,749
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:41 PM Post #170,998 of 178,749
Ever, and always, about the sound. Does it do the “live/you are there or they are here” emotion?” If so, winner, if not, move on.
I am certainly capable of making those decisions and much of my gear has been heard in blind studies by others who record similar responses.🤪 Now mind you some of the listeners have young ears but I always found that to be a good thing. I do not rejects opinions of anyone it is just more fun to hang out with some.

Whenever I design and build something I try to be objective since no doubt I could be biased. When others such as Bill, Ripper, Sam, ImagesbyMurray, Orange5o and my local group give me positive feedback, perhaps my assessments are ok.😜

I am happy with my home gear yet it is a twelve minute drive for me to systems in the $100k range. Everything is relative. Sometimes you buy what you can afford and do the best you can.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 9:42 PM Post #170,999 of 178,749
It's intelligibility of voices at very low volumes that is the standout among many traits - like no midbass when there isn't any.

I had them on a 26.5" stand that was spindly, got a beefy 22" stand but w/ wall to wall the mids are getting swallowed, even tilted up to listening position. Shart. I'll figure it out.
What’s the underfloor beneath the W2W? Lay down some proper wood + area wool rugs doable? Or not possible? Looking forward to hearing them! (Hate W2W… got the whole first floor ripped out and replaced with 5” oak, but still have the stairs and 3 bedrooms/hall upstairs to do same… <shudder>)

PS: we’re planting the JA’s tomorrow! (And putting in the last of the snow plow stakes, alas). I’ll RIP that one demo CD with the insane bass for when I next see you… that was wild (even after totally unloading the room).
 

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