[Ripper2860]

As a matter of habit, I do not turn power off my DACs and most electronics (except tube gear, of course). My thoughts are the inrush surge and stress of power-on would contribute more to electronics detriment than leaving it on (assuming a good power suppressor / filter). It doesn't hurt that I believe gear sounds better when warmed up.

 

[XERO1]

Well as an owner of Gungnir MB, I can say with confidence that Gungnir sounds different 3 to 4 days after being on then on very first day. On first day it sounded cold and bright. I left it on for few days and then compared against Qutest and to my surprise I experienced dense tonality of Multibit for first time with better treble. I never switched it off after that and got better surge protector to protect it.

This is pretty typical of most R2R-type DACs.

The Yggy is notorious for requiring 3-4 days of continuous on-time before it sounds it's best, which is why it's recommended to just leave Schiit's multibit DACs on 24/7 while you are actively using it.

 

[Ripper2860]

Bifrost 2 -- In Da House!!!

Letting her warm-up a day before getting serious, but so far ...

 

[Rensek]

Oooooo, I want to throw fiscal responsibility to the wind!!! New tires for the family ride or a Bifrost 2. Decisions Decisions......

 

[Ripper2860]

Retreads and a Bifrost 2 sounds like a good compromise to me.

 

[tincanear]

Oooooo, I want to throw fiscal responsibility to the wind!!! New tires for the family ride or a Bifrost 2. Decisions Decisions......

or sell some of your old gear...

 

[Rensek]

Retreads and a Bifrost 2 sounds like a good compromise to me.

Yeah... I get basically 5-6 months of winter up here. Don't want to cheap out on tires.

or sell some of your old gear...

Relatively new to this hobby, nothing worth selling yet.

 

[Ripper2860]

Retreads and a Bifrost 2 sounds like a good compromise to me.

Yeah... I get basically 5-6 months of winter up here. Don't want to cheap out on tires.

Dammit forgot to use tags. Misunderstood sarcasm rears its ugly head once more ...



Move to Texas. We get 10 mos. of Summer!!

 

[Ripper2860]

OK. After one day with thr Bifrost 2, I'm really finding it to be a very nice DAC representing a very worthwhile upgrade from my Modi MB and Topping D50. I'll give some more listening over the next few days before saying anything more than that.

Quick questions for Bifrost 2 and Lyr 3 owners: Do any of you folks stack your Lyr 3 on top of the Bifrost 2? If so, how do you feel about the temps? When I do, it Seems VERY toasty -- not just for Lyr 3, but also for Bifrost 2. I use a tube-saver to lift my 6SN7 tubes at top case level and the unstacked Lyr 3 gets just slightly warm to the touch. If I set the Bifrost 2 to the side, it also gets barely warm to the touch. If I stack the 2 -- HOLY COW!!! The Lyr 3 gets UNCOMFORTABLY warm/hot and the Bifrost 2 gets VERY warm/hot -- especially on the left-side where the power circuitry and transformer is located. Any of y'all get the same results? Do you folks think it's a bad idea to stack them? Some say a toasty Schiit stack is a happy Schiit stack and others say Heat is the enemy of all electronics. Your thoughts, please.

Thanks!!!

 

[tcellguy]

OK. After one day with thr Bifrost 2, I'm really finding it to be a very nice DAC representing a very worthwhile upgrade from my Modi MB and Topping D50. I'll give some more listening over the next few days before saying anything more than that.

Quick questions for Bifrost 2 and Lyr 3 owners: Do any of you folks stack your Lyr 3 on top of the Bifrost 2? If so, how do you feel about the temps? When I do, it Seems VERY toasty -- not just for Lyr 3, but also for Bifrost 2. I use a tube-saver to lift my 6SN7 tubes at top case level and the unstacked Lyr 3 gets just slightly warm to the touch. If I set the Bifrost 2 to the side, it also gets barely warm to the touch. If I stack the 2 -- HOLY COW!!! The Lyr 3 gets UNCOMFORTABLY warm/hot and the Bifrost 2 gets VERY warm/hot -- especially on the left-side where the power circuitry and transformer is located. Any of y'all get the same results? Do you folks think it's a bad idea to stack them? Some say a toasty Schiit stack is a happy Schiit stack and others say Heat is the enemy of all electronics. Your thoughts, please.

Thanks!!!

I had a Lyr 3 / Jotunheim / Bifrost triple stack and the bottom Jot and Bifrost got very hot (even with the Lyr 3 off). I moved the bifrost over the left and brought the Jot down to desk level and the temps went back to normal.

 

[RestoredSparda]

OK. After one day with thr Bifrost 2, I'm really finding it to be a very nice DAC representing a very worthwhile upgrade from my Modi MB and Topping D50. I'll give some more listening over the next few days before saying anything more than that.

Quick questions for Bifrost 2 and Lyr 3 owners: Do any of you folks stack your Lyr 3 on top of the Bifrost 2? If so, how do you feel about the temps? When I do, it Seems VERY toasty -- not just for Lyr 3, but also for Bifrost 2. I use a tube-saver to lift my 6SN7 tubes at top case level and the unstacked Lyr 3 gets just slightly warm to the touch. If I set the Bifrost 2 to the side, it also gets barely warm to the touch. If I stack the 2 -- HOLY COW!!! The Lyr 3 gets UNCOMFORTABLY warm/hot and the Bifrost 2 gets VERY warm/hot -- especially on the left-side where the power circuitry and transformer is located. Any of y'all get the same results? Do you folks think it's a bad idea to stack them? Some say a toasty Schiit stack is a happy Schiit stack and others say Heat is the enemy of all electronics. Your thoughts, please.

Thanks!!!

I have the same stack and haven't really much worried about heat to be honest. They have a lot of room on the sides. I do know the bifrost 2 runs a lot hotter than bifrost "1" even if not stacked. Lyr 3 isn't all that hot to me compared to my previous Lyr 2. I guess I haven't noticed any alarming temps with the two stacked. I'm sure some taller risers under Ly 3 like you mentioned would drop temps quite a bit if you are worried about longevity.

 

[JoeKickass]

OK. After one day with thr Bifrost 2, I'm really finding it to be a very nice DAC representing a very worthwhile upgrade from my Modi MB and Topping D50. I'll give some more listening over the next few days before saying anything more than that.

Quick questions for Bifrost 2 and Lyr 3 owners: Do any of you folks stack your Lyr 3 on top of the Bifrost 2? If so, how do you feel about the temps? When I do, it Seems VERY toasty -- not just for Lyr 3, but also for Bifrost 2. I use a tube-saver to lift my 6SN7 tubes at top case level and the unstacked Lyr 3 gets just slightly warm to the touch. If I set the Bifrost 2 to the side, it also gets barely warm to the touch. If I stack the 2 -- HOLY COW!!! The Lyr 3 gets UNCOMFORTABLY warm/hot and the Bifrost 2 gets VERY warm/hot -- especially on the left-side where the power circuitry and transformer is located. Any of y'all get the same results? Do you folks think it's a bad idea to stack them? Some say a toasty Schiit stack is a happy Schiit stack and others say Heat is the enemy of all electronics. Your thoughts, please.

Thanks!!!

I keep a Lyr 3 on a Bifrost 2 in an enclosed area, when I turn on the Lyr 3 for a few hours it does get pretty warm but I can still keep my hand on it comfortably, and the Bifrost 2 is noticeably not as hot as the Lyr 3.

As long as you don't keep the Lyr 3 on 24/7 there shouldn't be any longevity issues with a stack, and it looks quite nice too:

 

[quimbo]

OK. After one day with thr Bifrost 2, I'm really finding it to be a very nice DAC representing a very worthwhile upgrade from my Modi MB and Topping D50. I'll give some more listening over the next few days before saying anything more than that.

Quick questions for Bifrost 2 and Lyr 3 owners: Do any of you folks stack your Lyr 3 on top of the Bifrost 2? If so, how do you feel about the temps? When I do, it Seems VERY toasty -- not just for Lyr 3, but also for Bifrost 2. I use a tube-saver to lift my 6SN7 tubes at top case level and the unstacked Lyr 3 gets just slightly warm to the touch. If I set the Bifrost 2 to the side, it also gets barely warm to the touch. If I stack the 2 -- HOLY COW!!! The Lyr 3 gets UNCOMFORTABLY warm/hot and the Bifrost 2 gets VERY warm/hot -- especially on the left-side where the power circuitry and transformer is located. Any of y'all get the same results? Do you folks think it's a bad idea to stack them? Some say a toasty Schiit stack is a happy Schiit stack and others say Heat is the enemy of all electronics. Your thoughts, please.

Thanks!!!

I bought some of these https://www.supplyhouse.com/DiversiTech-MP-2E-EVA-Anti-Vibration-Pad-2-x-2-x-7-8 and placed them between my Bifrost 1 and Lyr 3. This has reduced the heat emanating from the stack

 

[internethandle]

Yeah if you're really concerned, just get feet that are taller than the stock feet for the Lyr 3 (or, if you want even more room for the Bifrost 2 to breathe, for both). I use Herbie's Tenderfeet. Taking off the stock feet is very easy (as is putting them back on, just pull/press from/into the chassis holes on the bottom).

People hand wringing about Schiit stack heat has been a thing for as long as I can remember, and I'm of the opinion that it's a non-issue. Schiit gear is supposed to get hot, their chassis designs double as their components' heastinks, much of the time. I kept an OG Bifrost 1 (pre-Multibit, a pre-order model so it got a lot hotter than later revisions) stacked with a very hot Little Dot MK III for years, the Bifrost 1 on 24/7, and the Bifrost 1 never skipped a beat.

 

[Jason Stoddard]

I stack my Asgard 3 on top of my Bifrost 2. They get warm. It's fine. We wouldn't have a 5-year warranty if we didn't think they wouldn't last 10 when stacked like that. Remember, we've been around for 9.5 years now, building products that ran a LOT hotter than Asgard 3 and Lyr 3 (looking at you, previous Asgards and Lyrs), without thermal failures.

Before I stacked the Asgard 3 and Bifrost 2, I stacked my Lyr 3 on top of my Bifrost 2 prototype (which was in a 3D printed plastic chassis.) The plastic chassis melted a bit, but it worked fine for about a year otherwise.

However...stacking things on top of the amp (Jotunheim, Asgard 3, etc) is not such a great idea--which is why the manuals say you shouldn't block the vent holes.