Samsung Galaxy S3 to DAC - USB Micro-B male to Mini-B male??
Sep 20, 2012 at 9:31 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 65

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I am trying to determine if a US Samsung Galaxy S3 will output a digital audio stream that will work with my iBasso D10.
 
In order to do this I need to obtain a USB cable to connect them.  I know the D10 accepts a Mini-B male end but I'm not sure that the S3 accepts the Micro-B male end which I expect is 5 pin.
 
I would like to know an answer to this question and where I can buy such a cable.
 
Any help would be appreciated.

 
Sep 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM Post #2 of 65
If your on Jellybean the SIII can output digital via the micro USB, I've got a GSM Galaxy Nexus and I'm waiting for JB from Samsung.
Sorry I can't offer any advice on what type of USB wire is correct.
 
Sep 21, 2012 at 3:21 AM Post #3 of 65
Quote:
I would like to know an answer to this question and where I can buy such a cable.
 

 
Answer:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/270#post_8660606
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/150#post_8530235
 
Where:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_6/183-7154224-3639367?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=usb+otg+cable&sprefix=USB+OT%2Caps%2C586
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=usb+otg+cable&_sacat=0
 
Sep 21, 2012 at 8:56 AM Post #4 of 65
Thank you both for the information and the useful links.  The cables on eBay and Amazon are Micro-B to regular USB (whatever that is called) and I would prefer to go directly to Mini-B but I can use them.  I did find one web page (usb.brando.com) with the Micro-B male to the Mini-B male but I haven't checked them out yet to determine if they're reputable. I expect I'll do that later today.
 
I don't have the Samsung phone at this point but I probably will, at least after it gets Jelly Bean.
 
Thanks again for the help.
 
 
Sep 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM Post #5 of 65
It seems you read too fast.
 
The iBasso D10 is a standard or conventional USB DAC, because it can work with a PC or a Mac: the PC / Mac acts as a USB host, and the standard USB DAC acts as a USB peripheral / device / client.
 
Like a PC / Mac, a current stock Galaxy S3 running on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich can interwork with a standard USB DAC.
You can find a list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the current stock Galaxy S3 at the following link:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/300#post_8700170
 
At the launch of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Google has announced a new type of USB DAC.
An Android-specific USB DAC can’t work with a PC or a Mac; because an Android-specific USB DAC acts as a USB host, and an Android smartphone / tablet should act as a USB peripheral / client.
 


 

 
A prototype of an Android-specific USB DAC / amp, FiiO E18, will be shown next month.
 
 

 
 
A Galaxy S3 is a USB On-The-Go device. It can operate either as a USB host or a USB peripheral.
 
Simply put, when a USB Micro-A plug is inserted in an OTG-featured Galaxy S3, a S3 acts as a USB host, and it could interwork with a standard USB DAC like the iBasso D10 
(USB host <=> USB peripheral: successful USB transaction)
(A device <=> B device: successful USB transaction).
 
When a USB Micro-B plug is inserted in an OTG-featured Galaxy S3, a S3 acts as a USB peripheral / client, and it can’t interwork with a standard USB DAC like the iBasso D10, because the iBasso D10 can only act as a USB peripheral / client among other non-compatible stuff 
(USB peripheral <=> USB peripheral: failed USB transaction)
(B device <=> B device: failed USB transaction).
 
 
A Micro-A plug is a (regular) Micro-B plug where the pin 4 is connected to the pin 5.
 
Before testing the Galaxy S3 with a standard USB DAC via a Micro-A USB OTG cable, this cable should be tested using a simple USB mouse (i.e. USB peripheral) connected to the Galaxy S3 (i.e. USB host).
 
Sep 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM Post #6 of 65
DanBa:
 
Thank you very much for the reply.  I got up quite early to take a hike in the mountains and I was in a rush and I only scanned the information at the links you provided.  I just returned from the hike and will study your last post, and information at the links, so that I can understand exactly what it is your saying.  I am not familiar with the types of USB connections but I will know a lot more later today..
 
Thank you again, I appreciate it very much.
 
Sep 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM Post #8 of 65
there you go: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251147285033
 
 
I'm currently in search for micro b male to micro b male OTG tho does any one got any luck?
 
Sep 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM Post #9 of 65
Thank you Tamz.  I'll order one of those. If I find a micro b male to micro b male I'll post it here.
 
 
Sep 27, 2012 at 2:56 AM Post #10 of 65
if u can pay for the express just pay for it.
I've wait way too long for mine and it just arrived when I forgot about it.
and I'm about to order OTG cables again too lol.
 
Sep 27, 2012 at 11:12 PM Post #12 of 65
ty
but damn 6inches way too long for an LOD
no other options tho lol
 
Sep 28, 2012 at 6:40 PM Post #14 of 65
Tamz:  I tried to buy the cable on eBay but it was blocked.  I'll keep checking because it would help clean up my cabling a bit.
 
However, I just received an alternate solution from Monoprice.  I received a Micro USB OTG Adapter and a 1.5ft USB 2.0 A Male to Mini-B 5pin.
I used these with my Samsung S3 and iBasso D10 and now I am one happy clam. I wasn't sure it was going to be so easy as just plugging everything together but thats all I had to do.  I'm now getting the digital audio out of the S3 into the D10.
 

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