[soundboy]

Anyone have this SACD yet?

 

[Oliver :)]

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Originally Posted by soundboy Anyone have this SACD yet?

Not yet, but I have it on my list. Could take a while though

I would be very interested in a review as well.

 

[pframe]

Please make my day and tell me two things: 1) the new Brothers in Arms is now available in the U.S., and 2) it has a two-channel SACD layer in addition to the surround 5.1.

Welly Wu -- Just got the Rachel Podger Vivaldi La Stravaganza. It's perfect for a Sunday morning! (Well, it was yesterday; I'll retest in six days.)

 

[soundboy]

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Originally Posted by pframe Please make my day and tell me two things: 1) the new Brothers in Arms is now available in the U.S., and 2) it has a two-channel SACD layer in addition to the surround 5.1. Welly Wu -- Just got the Rachel Podger Vivaldi La Stravaganza. It's perfect for a Sunday morning! (Well, it was yesterday; I'll retest in six days.)

Well, almost every SACD has a dedicated stereo hi-rez mix.....including the "Brothers In Arms" SACD

Unfortunately, it's not available in the US as a domestic release; Dire Straits is signed in the US to Warner Music, a DVD-A supporter. However, this is where the internet comes in....

 

[pframe]

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Originally Posted by soundboy Well, almost every SACD has a dedicated stereo hi-rez mix.....including the "Brothers In Arms" SACD Unfortunately, it's not available in the US as a domestic release; Dire Straits is signed in the US to Warner Music, a DVD-A supporter. However, this is where the internet comes in....

Thanks, soundboy. About 10 seconds after that post, I saw your reply -- with back-cover image -- on Wmcmanus's BIA-specific thread.

I had to ask because I have Mark O'Connor's The American Seasons, which is SACD 5.1 but has no two-channel SACD. It sounds fantastic on my regular CD player, and I'm dying to hear it in SACD, but can't.

So, where did you order your copy? Europe? Hong Kong? Inquiring Knopfler fans want to know.

 

[soundboy]

Amazon UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...358152-9362042

CD Wow (that's $24.95 Australian including worldwide shipping....about US$18.94)

http://www1.cd-wow.biz/detail_result...uct_code=17932

 

[Oliver :)]

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Originally Posted by pframe I had to ask because I have Mark O'Connor's The American Seasons, which is SACD 5.1 but has no two-channel SACD. It sounds fantastic on my regular CD player, and I'm dying to hear it in SACD, but can't.

Huh?!

I though stereo was mandatory for SACD?

 

[pframe]

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Originally Posted by Oliver Huh?! I though stereo was mandatory for SACD?

Me, too. My SACD light does NOT come on for this disk, however. Maybe it's a problem specific to the O'Connor CD. Any other head-fiers have this music? Does it play as two-channel SACD?

[edit] Re-read your post, Oliver. It DOES have a Redbook stereo layer. What I believe is missing is the two-channel SACD layer.

 

[Oliver :)]

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Originally Posted by pframe Me, too. My SACD light does NOT come on for this disk, however. Maybe it's a problem specific to the O'Connor CD. Any other head-fiers have this music? Does it play as two-channel SACD? [edit] Re-read your post, Oliver. It DOES have a Redbook stereo layer. What I believe is missing is the two-channel SACD layer.

Sorry, that's what I meant of course. I thought SACD STEREO was mandatory for SACD. Otherwise I would not be bewildered, redbook is only mandatory for Hybrids. And it has to be redbook, not some copy-controled monstrosity.

 

[pframe]

So we both expect the same thing, Oliver. We'll have to wait, then, for other head-fiers to chime in. How about it, head-fi gang -- do all SACDs with a 5.1 surround layer also have a stereo SACD layer?

To steal a slogan: I WANT MY SACD!

 

[scottder]

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Originally Posted by pframe So we both expect the same thing, Oliver. We'll have to wait, then, for other head-fiers to chime in. How about it, head-fi gang -- do all SACDs with a 5.1 surround layer also have a stereo SACD layer? To steal a slogan: I WANT MY SACD!

In the early days I saw some Stereo only SACDs, but now almost all are Hybrid, with Stereo and multichannel layers.

 

[Oliver :)]

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Originally Posted by scottder In the early days I saw some Stereo only SACDs, but now almost all are Hybrid, with Stereo and multichannel layers.

Confirmed. I have yet to see a non-hybrid multichannel, and also never came across the here described non-high-res stereo. Non-high-res stereo is a violation of the SACD standard, as far as I know.

 

[juneamour]

I think the first thing SACD frustrating me is the multichannel problem. Most classical SACDs with multichannel tracks are encoded in 5.0 format, which means that the existing home theater systems are not capable of amping those signals, or the sound stage will be destroyed.

 

[scottder]

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Originally Posted by juneamour I think the first thing SACD frustrating me is the multichannel problem. Most classical SACDs with multichannel tracks are encoded in 5.0 format, which means that the existing home theater systems are not capable of amping those signals, or the sound stage will be destroyed.

They go out analog to the inputs on you reciever, not sure what you mean here, lack of the .1 (AKA sub), but I have never had a problem with multichannel, other than there are a lot of engineers who simply aren't very good at doing much with it.

Scott

 

[soundboy]

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Originally Posted by Oliver Confirmed. I have yet to see a non-hybrid multichannel, and also never came across the here described non-high-res stereo. Non-high-res stereo is a violation of the SACD standard, as far as I know.

I think there's a confusion of terms here. A hybrid is a SACD that contains a CD layer. There are plenty of non-hybrid multi-channel (aka single layer) SACD out there, mostly from Sony. There're some from Universal as well. As far as the availbility of stereo hi-rez on SACD, I think there're a few SACDs without a dedicated stereo hi-rez mix. However, those are in the extremely minority and certainly not an eagarly-anticipated title such as "Brothers In Arms".