RS1 -VS- Sportapro... Headroom Graphs??

[kramer5150]

I was playing around with the heardoom graphs and .... YIKES

I know graps arent everything, but this is too alarming to ignore.

Garrett

 

[Meyvn]

If we only bought headphones for EQ, who would bother with headphones over $200 anyway? I mean, hell, it's not that far off the Orpheus, either, to be frank.

 

[Veniogenesis]

Response graphs are foolish.

But, it's always fun to mess around with them. This is one of those examples.

 

[fewtch]

LOL, the Sportapro is more neutral...

 

[kin0kin]

try sr60 and 325

 

[manchau]

If we rely on Frequency graphs only then $1 phones can be more competetive then $1000 cans. What graphs shows is it's sound signature rather then it's qualty, naturality and instrument seperation. And Grado's and koss are similar in sound signature IMO. So, there is no wonder. It can only help to decide your taste whether you like more highs, mids or lows.

 

[Mercuttio]

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Originally Posted by fewtch LOL, the Sportapro is more neutral...

Oh SNAP!

 

[jagorev]

That's awesome!

And it's also pretty cool how the graphs show the HD650 being awfully close to the Orpheus.

 

[sgrossklass]

Actually I don't think they're THAT close. There are marked differences in the critical presence area and lower treble. Funny-looking coloration on the RS-1, you can see the effect of resonances in the undampened wood tubes behind the drivers.

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Originally Posted by jagorev And it's also pretty cool how the graphs show the HD650 being awfully close to the Orpheus.

Awfully close? From about 600 Hz to 3.5 kHz, yes, but the Orpheus both has less (but dead-flat to 40 Hz) bass and is brighter, with hardly any "anti-fatigue dip" and a slight "detail peak" around 9 kHz.

What FR graphs can never tell, of course, is spatial cues given by internal reflections and such.

 

[DevilDog]

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Originally Posted by fewtch LOL, the Sportapro is more neutral...

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the RS-1 is neutral. It's known for its coloration.

 

[skudmunky]

Cool beans

 

[kramer5150]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgrossklass Actually I don't think they're THAT close. There are marked differences in the critical presence area and lower treble. Funny-looking coloration on the RS-1, you can see the effect of resonances in the undampened wood tubes behind the drivers. Awfully close? From about 600 Hz to 3.5 kHz, yes, but the Orpheus both has less (but dead-flat to 40 Hz) bass and is brighter, with hardly any "anti-fatigue dip" and a slight "detail peak" around 9 kHz. What FR graphs can never tell, of course, is spatial cues given by internal reflections and such.

Yeah the RS1 has some peaks around 2-5k IMHO thats accounts for its "shouty at times" character.

Garrett

 

[wang228]

awesome!

 

[cheechoz]

Frankly, I don't care what that graph says, because there's no way on heaven and earth that the sportapro's can sound anything like the RS-1!!

Kinda makes graphs render useless to me!

 

[Icehawk]

If you believe graphs than SR60=SR325i and uh, they aren't even in the same ballpark IMO quality-wise.

Thanks Kin0kin