wolfen68
Headphoneus Supremus
Thanks to forum member Gorthon, I had an opportunity to spend a few hours comparing an RS-1 (reported at 250 hours of usage) to a stock HF-1 and my headphiled HF-1. In some ways, this is a part two continuation of this comparison thread:
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...highlight=hf-1
I went into this comparison with a lot of anticipation. An RS-1 is one of the four pieces of hardware I have been really "itching" to listen to for some time. All comparisons were use with an iRiver H140 with EAC/Lame (aps) files to an SR-71 amp. Some listening was also conducted through a Hornet which was also available. Most would agree that the H140 with .mp3's is a limited source, but portable equipment is my main interest and what I use the most. All cans used stock Bowls.
As always, everything is IMO to my personal tastes.
I had a lot of bias entering this comparison because I have read so much about the RS-1's. It gets to the point that you've seen so many impressions, you can almost delude yourself into believing that you know exactly what they sound like. I admit secretly wishing that the RS-1's would excel so that I would have a new upgrade path from the HHF-1's that I had been enjoying very much over the recent past.
For starters, comparisons from other members had led me to believe that an HHF-1 and RS-1 sounded very close to each other. To my surprise, at the very first listen, the two cans seemed more distinct and different from each other than any other comparisons I've ever made between two cans. I remember having SR-60's and getting 225's and spending a lot of time to hear the difference....or the difference between my old GoVibe and an SR71. Of course the differences are there, but you grow into recognizing them over some period of time.
Not so here....with the HHF-1's alongside the RS-1's, the difference is immediately apparent.
For starters, the HHF-1's have far more body and general fullness to their sound than the RS-1's. Also, the RS-1's are definitely brighter. The entire range of sound, from top to bottom, is slid upwards as compared to the HHF-1. The RS-1's highs are pretty incredible, but unfortunately I suspect I would not be able to handle it over long periods of time. Over the last several months I have developed some tinnitus in my left ear (not related to any abuse or headphone indulgences....just age
), and the RS-1 had me worried for the first time ever that what I was hearing may aggravate that condition. The highs are delicious, but every once in awhile a note would rise out of the mix and go deeper into my head than I liked. I have owned several Grados and am used to the Grado sound.....so I thought there would be no surprises there. Maybe this is a symptom of my less than stellar source.
The next thing I noticed was how detail was being presented. After listening to several songs first with the RS-1, I was convinced that it provided far superior detail. For example, in Wheezer's "Beverly Hills" the RS-1's revealed what sounds like a woman's voice singing intermittantly down low on the left channel (around the part where the lyrics "preppy school" occur.....she/he then pipes in later for short bits around the chorus. Amazed that the RS-1's revealed this little gem, I put on the HHF-1's and found that I could also hear it with those as well (but never noticed it in the past).
This happened time and time again where I noticed additional detail with the RS-1, but found it later with the HHF-1. I chalked this up to the different overall presentation (brighter) and the better layering/separation of the RS-1.
RS-1 soundstaging is superior. It exhibited improved openness and separation as compared to the HHF-1. With many tracks the improvement seemed moderate. However, after listening to Simon & Garfunkel's "The Sound of SIlence", I was convinced the RS-1 had the edge as the vocals and instruments broadened very realistically. The HHF-1 sounded good on this track, but more upfront and close.
The real teaser became the bass. The lower end is so different on these. To be honest, I was initially disappointed with the RS-1's bass. I expected tight and controlled.....but not this tight. I have worked hard to avoid the ravages of excessive bass addiction and to appreciate the real thing....but the jump from an HHF-1 to an RS-1 is a long one. The RS-1 has bass without a doubt, and it has bass detail and texture....but I had trouble feeling engaged.
The HHF-1's bass actually results in a sense of air displacement and a pressure to your ear while retaining some detail and some nice "lowness" when needed. The RS-1 did none of this for me. It has the bass detail, but not the 100% impact. Maybe this is because everything on the RS-1 seems to be one notch up the frequency scale from what I'm used to. All I can say is......listen to the White Stripes "Blue Orchid", Sinead O'Conner and the Chieftains "The Foggy Dew", ACDC "Whole Lotta Rosie", and the Wheezer song I mentioned if you ever have an opportunity to hear both side by side....and tell me what you think.
As I went from song to song, the overall observations of performance seemed consistent. I couldn't find songs that sounded better on one than on the other, and vice versa.
As I continued, it became maddening. When I heard an HF-1, I decided it was the best headphone I had heard to date. When I heard the HHF-1 for the first time, I felt the same and have believed for the last few months that it could do no wrong.
What the RS-1 did was show me that the HHF-1 is not perfect........but the RS-1 isn't either. I wanted so bad to take both headphones and squeeze them into one perfect product. Keep the warmer/fuller tone of the HHF-1's, but add the increased detail, separation, and soundstage of the RS-1 (and a touch of the high end sparkle...but not too much).
What a cruel twist of fate.
I am now convinced that modding an HF-1 DOES NOT get you an RS-1 on the cheap (well, not cheap nowadays). What you get is a can with a different signature....like it or leave it.
If I had to oversimplify, listening to the RS-1 reminds me I'm listening to CD's, while the HHF-1 makes me believe I'm listening to my old LP's. Because of this, the RS-1 has dropped off of my radar.
It is now a forum cliche...but the HHF-1 is more fun and servicable for me if not technically the better headphone.
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...highlight=hf-1
I went into this comparison with a lot of anticipation. An RS-1 is one of the four pieces of hardware I have been really "itching" to listen to for some time. All comparisons were use with an iRiver H140 with EAC/Lame (aps) files to an SR-71 amp. Some listening was also conducted through a Hornet which was also available. Most would agree that the H140 with .mp3's is a limited source, but portable equipment is my main interest and what I use the most. All cans used stock Bowls.
As always, everything is IMO to my personal tastes.
I had a lot of bias entering this comparison because I have read so much about the RS-1's. It gets to the point that you've seen so many impressions, you can almost delude yourself into believing that you know exactly what they sound like. I admit secretly wishing that the RS-1's would excel so that I would have a new upgrade path from the HHF-1's that I had been enjoying very much over the recent past.
For starters, comparisons from other members had led me to believe that an HHF-1 and RS-1 sounded very close to each other. To my surprise, at the very first listen, the two cans seemed more distinct and different from each other than any other comparisons I've ever made between two cans. I remember having SR-60's and getting 225's and spending a lot of time to hear the difference....or the difference between my old GoVibe and an SR71. Of course the differences are there, but you grow into recognizing them over some period of time.
Not so here....with the HHF-1's alongside the RS-1's, the difference is immediately apparent.
For starters, the HHF-1's have far more body and general fullness to their sound than the RS-1's. Also, the RS-1's are definitely brighter. The entire range of sound, from top to bottom, is slid upwards as compared to the HHF-1. The RS-1's highs are pretty incredible, but unfortunately I suspect I would not be able to handle it over long periods of time. Over the last several months I have developed some tinnitus in my left ear (not related to any abuse or headphone indulgences....just age
The next thing I noticed was how detail was being presented. After listening to several songs first with the RS-1, I was convinced that it provided far superior detail. For example, in Wheezer's "Beverly Hills" the RS-1's revealed what sounds like a woman's voice singing intermittantly down low on the left channel (around the part where the lyrics "preppy school" occur.....she/he then pipes in later for short bits around the chorus. Amazed that the RS-1's revealed this little gem, I put on the HHF-1's and found that I could also hear it with those as well (but never noticed it in the past).
This happened time and time again where I noticed additional detail with the RS-1, but found it later with the HHF-1. I chalked this up to the different overall presentation (brighter) and the better layering/separation of the RS-1.
RS-1 soundstaging is superior. It exhibited improved openness and separation as compared to the HHF-1. With many tracks the improvement seemed moderate. However, after listening to Simon & Garfunkel's "The Sound of SIlence", I was convinced the RS-1 had the edge as the vocals and instruments broadened very realistically. The HHF-1 sounded good on this track, but more upfront and close.
The real teaser became the bass. The lower end is so different on these. To be honest, I was initially disappointed with the RS-1's bass. I expected tight and controlled.....but not this tight. I have worked hard to avoid the ravages of excessive bass addiction and to appreciate the real thing....but the jump from an HHF-1 to an RS-1 is a long one. The RS-1 has bass without a doubt, and it has bass detail and texture....but I had trouble feeling engaged.
The HHF-1's bass actually results in a sense of air displacement and a pressure to your ear while retaining some detail and some nice "lowness" when needed. The RS-1 did none of this for me. It has the bass detail, but not the 100% impact. Maybe this is because everything on the RS-1 seems to be one notch up the frequency scale from what I'm used to. All I can say is......listen to the White Stripes "Blue Orchid", Sinead O'Conner and the Chieftains "The Foggy Dew", ACDC "Whole Lotta Rosie", and the Wheezer song I mentioned if you ever have an opportunity to hear both side by side....and tell me what you think.
As I went from song to song, the overall observations of performance seemed consistent. I couldn't find songs that sounded better on one than on the other, and vice versa.
As I continued, it became maddening. When I heard an HF-1, I decided it was the best headphone I had heard to date. When I heard the HHF-1 for the first time, I felt the same and have believed for the last few months that it could do no wrong.
What the RS-1 did was show me that the HHF-1 is not perfect........but the RS-1 isn't either. I wanted so bad to take both headphones and squeeze them into one perfect product. Keep the warmer/fuller tone of the HHF-1's, but add the increased detail, separation, and soundstage of the RS-1 (and a touch of the high end sparkle...but not too much).
What a cruel twist of fate.
I am now convinced that modding an HF-1 DOES NOT get you an RS-1 on the cheap (well, not cheap nowadays). What you get is a can with a different signature....like it or leave it.
If I had to oversimplify, listening to the RS-1 reminds me I'm listening to CD's, while the HHF-1 makes me believe I'm listening to my old LP's. Because of this, the RS-1 has dropped off of my radar.
It is now a forum cliche...but the HHF-1 is more fun and servicable for me if not technically the better headphone.