REVIEW: Vivo Xplay 3S + XE800 Mobile audio perfection
Sep 24, 2016 at 2:21 AM Post #496 of 682

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Interesting comments. If the $18 XE800s I just ordered from Aliexpress are the real thing, I hope to learn first hand why you like them so much.
For my clarification, are you using the N5 for these comparisons, or a different dap? If it is the N5 it sounds like I should be shopping for an amp rather than assuming they can adequately drive the Havi's and other cans, yes?


Day to day use I'm using a smartphone - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.

When I A-B'ed the two, I tested with Fiio Q1 DAC/Amp. The only DAP I have is the Xduoo X2 and it's strong enough to drive the Havi's.

Some other users have recommended the Topping NX1 as it supposedly pairs well with the Havi's.
 
Sep 25, 2016 at 10:01 PM Post #499 of 682

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I found some inconsistency:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32704376144.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.mSWiFq&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
  1. Resistance: 9Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 123dB
  3. Frequency Response Range: 8-25000Hz

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones/32649424538.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.VT8or3&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
  1. Resistance: 51Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 110±2db
  3. Frequency Response Range: 5-30000Hz

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones-GEVO/32701902851.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.20.IMiiQc&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
  1. Resistance: 51Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 110dB
  3. Frequency Response Range: 5-30000Hz

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VIVO-XE800-Headset-High-Definition-Moveable-Hifi-Sound-System-In-ear-Earphone-With-Mic-Voice-Control/32737423932.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.54.I7JNLz&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
  1. Resistance: 32Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 101dB
  3. Frequency Response Range: 20-20000Hz

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32732459037.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.112.q1pzgy&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Frequency Range: 5HZ- 30000Hz

 
Impedance: 50ohm

 
Sensitivity: 110dB



and etc.

So which is the genuine one? I mean what is the true resistence, sensitivity, and FR range?
 
Sep 26, 2016 at 12:09 AM Post #500 of 682

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VIVO-XE800-Headset-High-Definition-Moveable-Hifi-Sound-System-In-ear-Earphone-With-Mic-Voice-Control/32737423932.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.54.I7JNLz&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
This one looks completely fake to me. They used some official photo's, but the first en last picture gives it away. Also $5 is too cheap. Don't bite the bait.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32704376144.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.mSWiFq&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Legit as confirmed by @yoowan
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones/32649424538.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.VT8or3&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Legit, confirmed by me.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones-GEVO/32701902851.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.20.IMiiQc&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Could be legit; pictures, story, price, everything looks legit. But at $23, you could avoid the risk and go for the $18 ones.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32732459037.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.112.q1pzgy&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Could be legit, does have the story, price and some pictures (although not taken by the seller himself).
 
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Official specifications from official website:
 
  1. Specifications
    Cord length: 1.25m
    Connector: 3.5mm plug
    Rated power: 10mW
    Max power: 50mW
    Frequency range: 5 Hz-30000 Hz
    Rated Impedance: 50 ohm
    Response rate:110 dB
  2. Mic Specifications
    Frequency range: 20 Hz-16000 Hz
    Response rate: --42±3dB
    Interface definition: L/R/GND/Mic





 
Sep 26, 2016 at 2:54 AM Post #501 of 682

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  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VIVO-XE800-Headset-High-Definition-Moveable-Hifi-Sound-System-In-ear-Earphone-With-Mic-Voice-Control/32737423932.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.54.I7JNLz&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
This one looks completely fake to me. They used some official photo's, but the first en last picture gives it away. Also $5 is too cheap. Don't bite the bait.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32704376144.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.mSWiFq&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Legit as confirmed by @yoowan
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones/32649424538.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.11.VT8or3&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Legit, confirmed by me.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Vivo-XE800-in-ear-HiFi-earphone-with-mic-for-smartphones-GEVO/32701902851.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.20.IMiiQc&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Could be legit; pictures, story, price, everything looks legit. But at $23, you could avoid the risk and go for the $18 ones.
 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-VIVO-XE800-High-definition-moveable-Hifi-Sound-system-in-ear-earphone-with-mic-Voice/32732459037.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.112.q1pzgy&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10067_112_10069_110_111_418_10017_109_108_10060_9999_10061_10062_10057_10056_10055_10054_10033_10059_10058_10073_10070_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_3&btsid=f0f69c28-f4ef-4324-ae2d-bae76f3fff81
 
Could be legit, does have the story, price and some pictures (although not taken by the seller himself).
 
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Official specifications from official website:
 
  1. Specifications
    Cord length: 1.25m
    Connector: 3.5mm plug
    Rated power: 10mW
    Max power: 50mW
    Frequency range: 5 Hz-30000 Hz
    Rated Impedance: 50 ohm
    Response rate:110 dB
  2. Mic Specifications
    Frequency range: 20 Hz-16000 Hz
    Response rate: --42±3dB
    Interface definition: L/R/GND/Mic

 
Thanks for the offical website!
It seems the $18 is a different product:
  1. Resistance: 9Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 123dB
  3. Frequency Response Range: 8-25000Hz
 
But seems good also. This might explain why someone claimed it sounds like Gr07 and someone claimed not!
 
Sep 26, 2016 at 7:05 AM Post #502 of 682

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Thanks for the offical website!
It seems the $18 is a different product:
  1. Resistance: 9Ω
  2. Sensitivity: 123dB
  3. Frequency Response Range: 8-25000Hz
 
But seems good also. This might explain why someone claimed it sounds like Gr07 and someone claimed not!

I don't think the seller really paid attention to the official specs. Could just be a random specs from his old listing. I don't think there are many versions of XE800 either. Just the fake and the genuine ones. 
 
Sep 27, 2016 at 8:46 AM Post #505 of 682

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Recently ordered the$18 pair from ali. I am looking for an upgrade to the kz ed9, and the **** 4in 1 was a huge letdown for me. Hope these fit the bill :)


Judging by your comments on the 4in1s i think you'll like the xe800. Just received my second pair after my daughter stole my last pair.

The are really well balanced and if you get the right seal have a decent amount of sub bass.

You may like the tenmak pro which sound very similar to the xe800s with more bass.
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 9:09 AM Post #508 of 682

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Just A/B'd my new pair with the pair I gave to my daughter not expecting to hear much off a difference.

What i found was noticeably more bass presence on the (very well) burned in pair and a slightly more spacious sound.

So now I'm a firm believer in burn in!

Either that or there are slight differences in manufacturing.
 
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Interesting comments. If the $18 XE800s I just ordered from Aliexpress are the real thing, I hope to learn first hand why you like them so much.
For my clarification, are you using the N5 for these comparisons, or a different dap? If it is the N5 it sounds like I should be shopping for an amp rather than assuming they can adequately drive the Havi's and other cans, yes?


Just to confuse you my experience is the total opposite, the XE800 is collecting dust while my B3's still get some usage after owning them for over two years.....

Just goes to show that it's all about personal preferences so better try for one self than putting too much into every single opinion.

Good luck :wink:
 

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