requesting Pics of wood Cd3000

[Hawainpanda]

thanks

 

[Jahn]

Here you go!

 

[South_Korean]

mmm bubinga

 

[MD1032]

You know what's curious is that I met a guy in our church group the other day (we were at his house) who is really in to woodworking and he's done everything under the sun with wood - tables, cabinets, even custom speaker enclosures, and it's very cheap and easy for an experienced carpenter like himself (almost the entire inside of his house, all of the wood-related stuff, is done by him. He has more wood stuff in his house than I've seen in my entire life). I know I'm always ragging on Larry because of his high prices and I'll admit I've never heard his cables, but this just adds more to my suspicion that Larry is REALLY overcharging for his work. I mean, this guy I met would probably be able to do me a favor and "woody" something for me for free, or at least a very low price.

No offence to Larry as I think his stuff, from what I see, is top-notch work, but the prices are just...

Oh well, it's your money, people.

 

[Jahn]

Well Larry is the only woodworker crazy enough that we know to do what he does with cans, so we all gladly pay the premium lol. But if your friend can whittle out a pair of cans from yon ginko, more power to the idea I say! Give him a challenge and tell him to do some bas relief on the cups

 

[kartik]

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Originally Posted by MD1032 You know what's curious is that I met a guy in our church group the other day (we were at his house) who is really in to woodworking and he's done everything under the sun with wood - tables, cabinets, even custom speaker enclosures, and it's very cheap and easy for an experienced carpenter like himself (almost the entire inside of his house, all of the wood-related stuff, is done by him. He has more wood stuff in his house than I've seen in my entire life). I know I'm always ragging on Larry because of his high prices and I'll admit I've never heard his cables, but this just adds more to my suspicion that Larry is REALLY overcharging for his work. I mean, this guy I met would probably be able to do me a favor and "woody" something for me for free, or at least a very low price. No offence to Larry as I think his stuff, from what I see, is top-notch work, but the prices are just... Oh well, it's your money, people.

I'm not sure what you're insinuating is entirely appropriate. Larry is not only charging for the quality of his work but also for the time he spends away from his family designing stuff for people like us. He's not crafting door=knobs or kitchen shelves. The stuff he makes sounds good too. I resent the fact that people here would happily shell out good money to Grado Labs for what is sub-standard and shoddy work that probably is overcharged and pass snide remarks about someone like Larry who really has made a hobby and a viable business out of tweaking headphones well. I, for one, would rather pay Larry for one of his tricked out jobs than return to Grado for their work.

 

[tkam]

I think kartik hit this one right on the head, your not paying for the materials nearly as much as you are for the labor and if you can do the wood working yourself than more power to you.

 

[South_Korean]

yea id find dismantling your headphones than modifiying it like that would be hard and would take a while to do it. besides, that woodworker guy hasnt worked with headphones anyways has he?

 

[Xanadu777]

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Originally Posted by MD1032 something for me for free, or at least a very low price.

I would think a 16 year old student like yourself on their summer break would have plenty of time to build something yourself. I built four massive speakers out of wood when I was 13, for my quadraphonic setup (1973). They were pretty darn sweet. It took me days, weeks even, but it was my free time and I didn't have a single bill to worry about, though I did have a part time job to buy the components. I didn't have the skills, I learned along the way and managed to keep all my fingers.

When you get a little older and have to start working to pay bills, have a family, buy a house, etc, you may realize that developing a skill and putting it into use is worth something more than minimum wage. People pay for your skills because they either don't have the time, or the knowledge to do it themselves. At age 16 I can see how you might think products cost too much, at my ancient age of 45 I think they are priced too low.

I've often wondered this while reading in forums, a general question to all... Do mothers still teach their children "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?"

 

[smittysan89]

hmm I know a TON of people like the woodies but i really dont like how they look at all except for the Audio Technica's...but that is just my opinion

 

[Jahn]

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Originally Posted by smittysan89 hmm I know a TON of people like the woodies but i really dont like how they look at all except for the Audio Technica's...but that is just my opinion

Technically the RS-1 is a woody too, you don't like the look of it? Actually you may not, Grados are a love/hate look, eh?

Anyhow, to address Larry, I know you aren't sweating that dig much, but here's my 2 cents - every single thing in my rig right now is either created or modded to a level that i couldn't do myself, and therefore I would gladly pay someone to do it for me versus me learning from scratch and prioritizing it over other things (including listening to music!) so I'm actually very glad that there are folks in head-fi land with the passion to put out these kinds of things so I can reap the benefits! it's all very well and good to say that someone else can do something better or cheaper, but "don't knock it till you've tried it" or "the proof is in the pudding" or "leather" is the way i'd go on this.

 

[akwok]

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Originally Posted by Xanadu777 I would think a 16 year old student like yourself on their summer break would have plenty of time to build something yourself. I built four massive speakers out of wood when I was 13, for my quadraphonic setup (1973). They were pretty darn sweet. It took me days, weeks even, but it was my free time and I didn't have a single bill to worry about, though I did have a part time job to buy the components. I didn't have the skills, I learned along the way and managed to keep all my fingers. When you get a little older and have to start working to pay bills, have a family, buy a house, etc, you may realize that developing a skill and putting it into use is worth something more than minimum wage. People pay for your skills because they either don't have the time, or the knowledge to do it themselves. At age 16 I can see how you might think products cost too much, at my ancient age of 45 I think they are priced too low. I've often wondered this while reading in forums, a general question to all... Do mothers still teach their children "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?"

Well put, Larry.

Think of it this way.. Larry has a 9-5 job (I think), and he makes an X amount of dollars per hour. If it takes him two hours to make a woody (unrealistic, I think) in his spare time, do you not think that it is fair he charges 2*X + cost of materials?

 

[apostate]

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Originally Posted by MD1032 I know I'm always ragging on Larry because of his high prices and I'll admit I've never heard his cables, but this just adds more to my suspicion that Larry is REALLY overcharging for his work. I mean, this guy I met would probably be able to do me a favor and "woody" something for me for free, or at least a very low price. No offence to Larry as I think his stuff, from what I see, is top-notch work, but the prices are just... Oh well, it's your money, people.

Perhaps you should actually listen to his creations as well as seeing them in person. I have a pair of Woody 225s sitting right next to me at this minute. Not only is the quality top notch but these are the only Grados I have heard that I have liked. I've done my fair share of woodworking and that in no way qualifies me to design speaker cabinets or make custom headphone modifications.

It's not like you get a lacquered wooden donut attached with lamp cord to an adaptor. Rather you get something aesthetically pleasing, of very high quality, in many cases customized to your specifications, that sounds great.

Designing sound related equipment seems to involve as much art as science as far as I'm concerned (otherwise every speaker, every cable, etc. would sound phenomenal) and frankly I would have no problem sending my cans to Larry for work. Only he can determine what is a reasonable price for the time and effort he puts in but I for one see them as completely reasonable given the results. If only he had a mod for the 595s...

Ant

 

[Hawainpanda]

thx jahn, headphile was what got me interested in wood cd3ks

I was hoping some people with theirs would post some pics

and thanks alot for all the replies...I'd like to input some of my thoughts

in consideration of how much the cd3k's are....the wood...is already approaching half or even near all of the cost of the headphones....so I think it is pretty steep.

The cost of the supply...is prob around 2 bucks...and labor, well I'm sure a crafted person could do it in a hour...prob way less, either way its super expensive labor. However, there isn't any comptetion here, if there was another person, well prices would prob be half.

That's the same with people with extreme cooling on their comps, there were only around 3 people who knew to make phase-change coolers, then 100's of people learned how and the price to pay for private coolers dropped from 1000's...to around 300

 

[Hawainpanda]

also, in anycase, I want wood on my future cd3k...no doubt I'll head to headphile and enjoy it

but there is no doubt its expensive