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Sep 4, 2023 at 6:43 PM Post #6,811 of 6,882
Yeah, 4090. I was getting about 45FPS at that location before, so with frame generation it's basically a 2.5x increase in performance.

One odd side effect is that when you move to a new area it takes a couple seconds for the frame gen to kick in.
What? 45FPS with 4090? AMD crippling Nvidia cards. You should be good with 120FPS with frame gen. Frame gen is helping me out a lot!

I have no idea how to go about ships. It seems so complex. I'm not sure what to buy. I've been avoiding space conflicts because I'm still using Barette's crappy ship. Any advice?

I got inside one ship with the artifacts. The ship was massive inside! I was in loot heaven! My character specializes in lockpicking and persuading!

I like the lockpicking part in this game. Puzzles are interesting, but not too difficult. You have to plan ahead when you start.
 
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Sep 4, 2023 at 8:32 PM Post #6,812 of 6,882
You need to have DLSS 3 for frame gen, but come on, 4090 cannot run this average looking by today's standards thing at native resolution without upsampling and frame gen?
The gaming industry is doomed.
 
Sep 4, 2023 at 9:52 PM Post #6,813 of 6,882
Yeah, the optimization is absolute trash. Admittedly, it's not always so bad; on pretty typical planets I'd still get like 80FPS.

It seems like the worst areas are CPU limited, which is frustrating because the Ryzen 5950x I'm using is now slouch.

I seriously have to wonder why kind of systems this game was developed and tested on...
 
Sep 4, 2023 at 10:10 PM Post #6,814 of 6,882
Yeah, the optimization is absolute trash. Admittedly, it's not always so bad; on pretty typical planets I'd still get like 80FPS.

It seems like the worst areas are CPU limited, which is frustrating because the Ryzen 5950x I'm using is now slouch.

I seriously have to wonder why kind of systems this game was developed and tested on...
Probably high end pure AMD systems, wouldn't be surprised if you also need an X3D cpu to make the game run more smoothly. What I am gathering they didn't seem to even bother optimizing the game for Nvidia gpu's as well.
 
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Sep 4, 2023 at 10:52 PM Post #6,815 of 6,882
Yeah, the optimization is absolute trash. Admittedly, it's not always so bad; on pretty typical planets I'd still get like 80FPS.

It seems like the worst areas are CPU limited, which is frustrating because the Ryzen 5950x I'm using is now slouch.

I seriously have to wonder why kind of systems this game was developed and tested on...
Same thing as with Remnant 2, impossible to run at native. The devs response "The game was designed with upsampling in mind". What? :poop:
At least they had DLSS out of the box.
 
Sep 4, 2023 at 11:38 PM Post #6,816 of 6,882
Guys, I got into some sub-quest after I got into trouble with the law, and this sub-quest is pretty cool. It seems the story is picking up for me now. All I've been doing is going inside caves to get that metal fragment over and over again, which made me lose faith in the game. It seems such a simple task, and repetitive. It made me think that the game was just about going inside caves to get the pieces. But, the quest with the pirate with the antiques and this sub-quest is making things interesting now. I'm starting to run into various story arcs, which is cool. I didn't know the game would get like this. It's like a long movie with various story arcs.

Trying to figure out what to do with the contrabands is an adventure in itself. lol
 
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Sep 6, 2023 at 10:06 AM Post #6,818 of 6,882


It seems that per Hardware Unboxed testing, CPU optimization is trash on AMD CPUs. Despite large architectural upgrades, Ryzen 5000 is only marginally faster than 3000. 10th, and even 9th gen Intel beats Ryzen 5000, with only the 5800X3D matching them.

Kinda looks like this is an AMD sponsored game only to keep DLSS out of it.
 
Sep 6, 2023 at 10:16 AM Post #6,819 of 6,882


It seems that per Hardware Unboxed testing, CPU optimization is trash on AMD CPUs. Despite large architectural upgrades, Ryzen 5000 is only marginally faster than 3000. 10th, and even 9th gen Intel beats Ryzen 5000, with only the 5800X3D matching them.

Kinda looks like this is an AMD sponsored game only to keep DLSS out of it.

Well, this is for running 1080p, which relies on CPU mainly. You should be running 4k with 4090, so you should be much less reliant on CPU.

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/starfield_pc_performance_review_and_optimisation_guide/3

i5-13600k seems like an optimal choice.

I don't know why i7-12700k is not on there.
 
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Sep 6, 2023 at 2:03 PM Post #6,820 of 6,882
Well, this is for running 1080p, which relies on CPU mainly. You should be running 4k with 4090, so you should be much less reliant on CPU.

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/starfield_pc_performance_review_and_optimisation_guide/3

i5-13600k seems like an optimal choice.

I don't know why i7-12700k is not on there.

Yeah, but it's with a 4090, and even at 1080p most CPUs aren't able to average above 60FPS. It'd be a different story if it was the difference between 240 and 200 FPS, but this is all on the razor's edge of acceptable performance.
 
Sep 7, 2023 at 12:07 AM Post #6,822 of 6,882
Might be going Intel for a rebuild soon, completely shuffling things from my current setup - ordered a 7900 XTX to replace the RTX 2080 because Nvidia's high end GPU pricing is just stupid. Need to do more research on the CPU side, though, as it's clear there's little point sinking more money in to AM4 at this point. Even the fastest chip I could get (and realistically cool in a mITX setup) can't compete with current mid-range offerings.

It's a shame Intel is only doing one more generation on the current socket, or I'd almost certainly go that route vs. spending what an AM5 setup will run. Ugh. $800 for CPU, motherboard and RAM hurts after splashing out $1000 on GPU, but that's the world we live in now.

On a somewhat more positive note, Starfield is fun if formulaic at first glance - Fallout 3 + No Man's Sky so far, absolutely crap optimization as is tradition for Bethesda. I've only got a couple hours in but like what I've seen so far. Hope they keep focus on environmental storytelling and it doesn't devolve in to completely repetitive drivel too quickly. Time will tell. Spending ~$100 after the conversion trick for 3 years of Game Pass Ultimate is proving to be one of the best gaming related moves I've made in years, that's for sure.

Not sure why I can't get in to Remnant 2, as I absolutely loved the original game and spent like 300 hours on it... The new map is just bad, for one. Performance is also terrible, as others have said, and "we built it with frame generation in mind" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard come out of a game studio. Almost no one in the greater scheme has a RTX 3XX / Radeon 6XXX+ card at the point, so that's building for hardware that practically doesn't exist. Sure it looks good, but not near good enough to justify the load. Hopefully the new GPU will breathe life in to it for me, because as it stands I'm deeply regretting buying day one, and I never saw that coming after my absolute love affair with the first game.

Diablo 4 won't benefit from new hardware at all, and I can't see myself continuing to play more than another month or two unless they really speed up progression, raise drop rates, and make interesting changes with the next season - 99.99% of what I pick up is trash, even on the highest difficulty, and I have yet to force myself through the slog to level 100 on a single character. I usually make it to 50ish, where progression slows to an absolute crawl, get bored, and either start a different class or switch to another game entirely. I get it, the grind is part of the appeal for many, but all the fans who were there from the beginning are adults now, presumably with lives and other things to do, and you'd think someone would take that in to accout... But no. My highest right now is a level 70-something necromancer, and I'm having a harder and harder time justifying logging in. I knew from the start it wasn't going to be a "main" game for me, but I figured I'd at least see the end with one class before losing interest completely.

Once upon a time it was fun to sort through all the trash and feel like I beat the odds, but as I fast approach 40 years old it has become painfully clear Blizzard just doesn't respect me or my time. 2, 3, 4 hours of "play" and I /might/ see one piece of gear worth swapping out, and even that improvement is almost always incremental to the point of insult. Sure the builds I'm using aren't totally optimized, but I hate the idea that there are so few ways to play what should be a power fantasy sandbox "right" - I have zero interest in PvP, balance it separately for those masochists if you must but let the rest of us have fun how we want to.

Similar situation with Destiny 2, sadly. I've played off and on since release, bought every expansion - my opinion admittedly soured by Bungie deleting more than half the game I've paid them hundreds of dollars for over the years. Yes, I understand that most wouldn't be okay with 500 GB or whatever devoted to one game, but we should have a choice, not forced to watch as it's stolen from us but by bit. At this point I'll probably buy The Final Shape out of habit as much as anything, to see the conclusion of a years long storyline, but after the sad joke that was Lightfall they've all but lost me. It's painfully obvious the A team has been put on the Marathon reboot (if you can even call it that), and I have zero interest in PvP extraction shooters. It just feels like greed motivated by the success of Fortnite and similar garbage at this point.

I don't know... This must be what getting old feels like, with every upgrade being harder and harder to justify to myself. There was a time where I sunk at least a grand in to my PC every year, now I can hardly see the point. Gaming was, for the longest time, my favorite hobby, my greatest escape, but it feels more and more like a source of guilt. There are so many ways I could better make use of that time. This may end up being my last big PC upgrade, ever, and that's a deeply unpleasant realization.

TLDR: getting old, everything is too expensive, game and hardware company greed way out of hand, it hurts to feel like I'm outgrowing my longest running hobby.
 
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Sep 7, 2023 at 2:07 AM Post #6,823 of 6,882
Gotta say, Starfield has stolen my life. I'm somewhere at 20 hours maybe. Level 21.
Completing the Vanguard / Crimson stories, my favorite. I loved the xeno. Then we progress the main story to its absurdity. Great fun.

There is just an abundance of depth to stories told here, and so much yet still to do.

Between x and then excessive armor, you feel god-like.

I started by avoiding the main story and then getting suck and suckered into surface level introduction, like deputy.
Vanguard gives you uber-armor, so I went with this big foundation to supplement the game.

The game with quirks, although controls, through and through make sense. The more you play this damn game, the bigger fanboy comes out.

It's a masterpiece.
 
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Sep 7, 2023 at 2:54 AM Post #6,824 of 6,882
Gotta say, Starfield has stolen my life. I'm somewhere at 20 hours maybe. Level 21.
Completing the Vanguard / Crimson stories, my favorite. I loved the xeno. Then we progress the main story to its absurdity. Great fun.

There is just an abundance of depth to stories told here, and so much yet still to do.

Between x and then excessive armor, you feel god-like.

I started by avoiding the main story and then getting suck and suckered into surface level introduction, like deputy.
Vanguard gives you uber-armor, so I went with this big foundation to supplement the game.

The game with quirks, although controls, through and through make sense. The more you play this damn game, the bigger fanboy comes out.

It's a masterpiece.
Yeah, I think Vanguard/Crimson quest is great. I wonder if it triggers after a certain point in the main quest or did I do something to trigger it? But it started at some point, and it turned out to be much more interesting than the main quest. I like Crimson more than Vanguard after spending time with Crimson. I just don't like Vanguard. Vanguard comes of snooty, and didn't like how they treated me. I think Crimson dialog is just more fun than the stiff Vanguard.

The game takes some time to pick up. I started to get an impression of how much work they put in when I started to see how massive the interiors of the different ships and space stations were. They put a lot of time into the interiors of these environments.
 
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Sep 9, 2023 at 1:03 AM Post #6,825 of 6,882
Bethesda has the most annoying-est game mechanics. The dumb oxygen limit and weight limit I got around (with a trainer), but the vendor credit limit of how much they have money they have in stock every 35 hrs is annoying as hell, and I got too much stuff I need to unload. The game is a bout looting all the time, and they pull that crap? Limit credit on the vendors? That is so dumb.

Shootouts are so janky, the way the enemies move. It still feels like Fallout games. Feel very last gen NPC animations.

And then the UI. Wow, what piece of $$rap. Bethesda's got to be the most clueless developers when it comes to unnecessary bs.

It seems windows 11 has updated the autohdr for Starfield. No more mods for it now.

Also, I find that the DLSS frame gen beta 2 hotfix to give me the most generated frames, compared to the newer releases.

Janky, janky, janky!!! But I keep playing it.
 
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