[Lurk650]

Has anyone done testing with ES100 and DT1770? Is ES100 enough to drive the 250ohms in a DT1770?
I have done some research and a few members here have provided helpful directions.

But I am a bit confused with the 2.5mm vs 3.5mm power outputs. As I understand the DT1770 is an unbalanced headphone and will be driven by the 3.5mm output of ES100. Is this correct? Or will I be able to leverage the higher output of the 2.5mm output even if the headphones are unbalanced?

Thanks!

I have the Amiron Home, same 250ohm/102db sensitivity. I have run them balanced from the ES100. Got enough volume but still wasn't that dynamic. Running them single ended I'm sure you will have a worse time unfortunately. The ES100 is for easier to drive gear.

 

[evolutiontheory]

You can't use the balanced output without balanced cabling on your headphones. You can adapt balanced headphones to single-ended amps, but not single-ended headphones to balanced amps.

I didn't try my HD800 (which are a little harder to drive, power spec-wise, than the DT1770) on the single-ended output of the ES100, but I can do so later on.

Thanks. This explains why I could not find a 2.5mm to mini-XLR cable at all.

 

[evolutiontheory]

I have the Amiron Home, same 250ohm/102db sensitivity. I have run them balanced from the ES100. Got enough volume but still wasn't that dynamic. Running them single ended I'm sure you will have a worse time unfortunately. The ES100 is for easier to drive gear.

Thank you. So DT1770 is out of question.

For lower impedance headphones - iSine20 (which I am happy with on my iPhone) and a new NightOwl that I bought yesterday, how would you consider ES100 performance. I am new to all this (just trying to go for an upgrade from my M50s) and thus do not have an amp to compare against. So far I have been switching between my MacBook Pro and ES100 for audio sources.

 

[Lurk650]

Thank you. So DT1770 is out of question.

For lower impedance headphones - iSine20 (which I am happy with on my iPhone) and a new NightOwl that I bought yesterday, how would you consider ES100 performance. I am new to all this (just trying to go for an upgrade from my M50s) and thus do not have an amp to compare against. So far I have been switching between my MacBook Pro and ES100 for audio sources.

Look at Meze 99 Classics or Neo's. Either would be an upgrade to the M50. Easy to drive out of the 3.5 and Meze offers balanced cables starting at $100. 99C's are my favorite closed back headphones.

 

[evolutiontheory]

Thanks for the inputs..
Two more follow up questions if I may
1) Other than the output power, will there be a difference in sound quality with the balanced output over unbalanced (for my iSine20 and NightOwls)
2) With respect to the sound quality how will these stack against FiiO Q5 for example? Just trying to understand whether I should put money into headphones or a good portable amp (What I wanted originally was a good bluetooth headphone!!).

 

[chinmie]

Thanks for the inputs..
Two more follow up questions if I may
1) Other than the output power, will there be a difference in sound quality with the balanced output over unbalanced (for my iSine20 and NightOwls)
2) With respect to the sound quality how will these stack against FiiO Q5 for example? Just trying to understand whether I should put money into headphones or a good portable amp (What I wanted originally was a good bluetooth headphone!!).

1. yes, the ES100 balanced and SE output have different separation quality to the sound

2. i haven't try the Q5, but i have tried the Xdsd and own a bluedac, and they do have a better SQ than the ES100, but in expense of bulkier weight, transport buttons, and microphone.

 

[kukkurovaca]

Has anyone done testing with ES100 and DT1770? Is ES100 enough to drive the 250ohms in a DT1770?
I have done some research and a few members here have provided helpful directions.

But I am a bit confused with the 2.5mm vs 3.5mm power outputs. As I understand the DT1770 is an unbalanced headphone and will be driven by the 3.5mm output of ES100. Is this correct? Or will I be able to leverage the higher output of the 2.5mm output even if the headphones are unbalanced?

Thanks!

You can't use the balanced output without balanced cabling on your headphones. You can adapt balanced headphones to single-ended amps, but not single-ended headphones to balanced amps.

I didn't try my HD800 (which are a little harder to drive, power spec-wise, than the DT1770) on the single-ended output of the ES100, but I can do so later on.

Okay, trying this now, and it's definitely possible to drive the HD800 single-ended, but comfortably loud listening volumes are at 75-85% of the volume slider (with EQ off), meaning that there's not much headroom. So my guess for your DT1770 is that it would work in a pinch, but you wouldn't get the best results.

 

[Rowethren]

The 1x voltage 2.5mm jack has had the volume reduced massively in the latest update. Have to try and work out where I was before now lol...

 

[darkwing]

is there a poweroff timer on the ES100?

 

[fljoe]

Just received my ES100 from amazon.com that I picked up during the lightening deal .. It is missing the LED on the front. Is this a new design?

Never mind ... I turned it ON and the LED appeared .. Sorry for not noticing it earlier. I tried charging it and the LED never came on.

 

[peter1480]

Just received my ES100 from amazon.com that I picked up during the lightening deal .. It is missing the LED on the front. Is this a new design?

It only comes on when its working on mine. It's under the smoky plastic.

 

[Alphasoixante]

Just received my ES100 from amazon.com that I picked up during the lightening deal .. It is missing the LED on the front. Is this a new design?

No. I would check that the LED isn't set to "off" in the LED menu.

 

[fooey]

I've not managed to read this thread in it's entirety but it seems most people are happy with battery life. I fully charged my unit (was showing 97%) which then dropped to the 92% within a few minutes Listened to it for 3.5 hours after which it was showing 47%. This was using the latest firmware, Ldac, 4x oversampling best sound quality and connected to ibasso it04 (balanced) Does this sound on the low side?

BTW, I'm loving the sound, my at pha55bt doesn't get much airtime.

 

[darkwing]

I've not managed to read this thread in it's entirety but it seems most people are happy with battery life. I fully charged my unit (was showing 97%) which then dropped to the 92% within a few minutes Listened to it for 3.5 hours after which it was showing 47%. This was using the latest firmware, Ldac, 4x oversampling best sound quality and connected to ibasso it04 (balanced) Does this sound on the low side?

BTW, I'm loving the sound, my at pha55bt doesn't get much airtime.

those options you selected are battery drainers, for the size/weight of the unit, I think the ES100 battery is just fine

yup, the sound is great

 

[Double C]

Hi, Has anybody found a small Usb A to USB c adapter for plugging into a MacBook Air that would basically turn the es100 into a dragonfly type footprint?