RAAL 1995 Immanis
Oct 31, 2024 at 3:03 PM Post #3,196 of 4,918
Oct 31, 2024 at 3:18 PM Post #3,197 of 4,918
Same, same, same! Immanis is the first stuff I have that use gold colour.


You definitely make me want to take more photos of Immanis lol

Yep. Have fun summoning your inner photography skills too :)
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 3:34 PM Post #3,198 of 4,918
Let's do this!
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Will share impressions soon.
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 4:13 PM Post #3,199 of 4,918
Oct 31, 2024 at 5:47 PM Post #3,201 of 4,918
Let's do this!
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Will share impressions soon.
Big day! Very interested on your thoughts with it on the the Mass Kobo.
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 6:29 PM Post #3,202 of 4,918
Wow! That's really intriguing. Note density and weight was one area where I thought the Valk ran ahead. Can you share a bit more about the setup you're using with the Immanis to achieve that?
I didn’t do anything different to my setup. It could be the combination of tubes I’m using (I’ve got 12 of them, or 6 pairs in my system, but probably you have more 😁), or the DAC, or cables. To tell you the truth, I don’t know really 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 6:43 PM Post #3,203 of 4,918
I didn’t do anything different to my setup. It could be the combination of tubes I’m using (I’ve got 12 of them, or 6 pairs in my system, but probably you have more 😁), or the DAC, or cables. To tell you the truth, I don’t know really 🤷🏽‍♂️
Normie is that directly from the Primavera or when you also use the Manley pre-amp as well?
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 7:08 PM Post #3,204 of 4,918
Normie is that directly from the Primavera or when you also use the Manley pre-amp as well?
I always use my preamp, it’s the heart of my system 😊 it does have a unique feature as it can bypass its output transformer and thus getting the sound “directly” from the tubes (at least that’s what EveAnna told me). And it sounds more transparent when used in direct mode.
 
Oct 31, 2024 at 8:42 PM Post #3,205 of 4,918
For clarification, which tubes from the Manley are used for pre amp? And assuming it's line in to Primavera, you've got pre amplifaction influence from Manley into Primavera? Eg, driver - power - driver - output? What type of tubes are used in both driver stages?
 
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Oct 31, 2024 at 8:58 PM Post #3,206 of 4,918
For clarification, which tubes from the Manley are used for pre amp? And assuming it's line in to Primavera, you've got pre amplifaction influence from Manley into Primavera? Eg, driver - power - driver - output? What type of tubes are used in both driver stages?
The Manley is a preamp, so the 300B is the line driver. The input tubes are 6SL7, rectifiers GZ34, voltage regulators are 0D3W.
 
Nov 1, 2024 at 8:08 AM Post #3,207 of 4,918
I've been listening to Immanis again this morning, and its detail is starting to knock me out now that I've had some more head time.

A brief example...

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In the title track (https://tidal.com/browse/track/114330494?u) of Tool's Lateralus album at 8:38 there's a guitar overdub in the left ear for about 15 secs until the drums drop out. A sort of muted chug/strum (not sure what you call it exactly) but it's something I've never noticed before.

Now, when I switched to 1266 you can barely hear it. In fact, surely the only way you'd know it was there was either because someone told you it was there or you'd just heard it on Immanis!

This is a record, btw, that I've heard hundreds of times. Closely and on headphones such as 1266.

It's unmistakable with Immanis because the part exists in its own space in the left ear, perfectly etched in space.

I point it out because I've previously emphasised my emotional connection to 1266 and how Immanis wasn't quite attaching itself to me (or I to it) in quite the same way. But this strikes me as an example of what I talked about in my initial impressions post re: technicalities contributing to emotional engagement.

Does it make my heart shudder that I can hear this one little overdub? Well, no. But it's extracting meaningful information in such a way about a track I thought I knew inside out, and illuminating the production detail and the intelligence of the band members to insert such an overdub, as well as conveying the track better in my mind's eye.

It's a concrete example of technicalities allowing me to get closer to the music in a way. That's extremely impressive.
 
Nov 1, 2024 at 8:28 AM Post #3,208 of 4,918
I've been listening to Immanis again this morning, and its detail is starting to knock me out now that I've had some more head time.

A brief example...



In the title track (https://tidal.com/browse/track/114330494?u) of Tool's Lateralus album at 8:38 there's a guitar overdub in the left ear for about 15 secs until the drums drop out. A sort of muted chug/strum (not sure what you call it exactly) but it's something I've never noticed before.

Now, when I switched to 1266 you can barely hear it. In fact, surely the only way you'd know it was there was either because someone told you it was there or you'd just heard it on Immanis!

This is a record, btw, that I've heard hundreds of times. Closely and on headphones such as 1266.

It's unmistakable with Immanis because the part exists in its own space in the left ear, perfectly etched in space.

I point it out because I've previously emphasised my emotional connection to 1266 and how Immanis wasn't quite attaching itself to me (or I to it) in quite the same way. But this strikes me as an example of what I talked about in my initial impressions post re: technicalities contributing to emotional engagement.

Does it make my heart shudder that I can hear this one little overdub? Well, no. But it's extracting meaningful information in such a way about a track I thought I knew inside out, and illuminating the production detail and the intelligence of the band members to insert such an overdub, as well as conveying the track better in my mind's eye.

It's a concrete example of technicalities allowing me to get closer to the music in a way. That's extremely impressive.
Never noticed it before, one of my fav tracks by Tool for 20 years at this point probably. Can hear it clearly with APX Se, surprising, I hear it for the first time too.

How pronounced is it on Immanis?
 
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Nov 1, 2024 at 8:36 AM Post #3,209 of 4,918
Never noticed it before, one of my fav tracks by Tool for 20 years at this point probably. Can hear it with APX Se, surprising, I hear it for the first time too.

How pronounced is it on Immanis?
Damn, I want to try those Se!

It's very clear on Immanis. Maybe someone else can confirm not just my setup?
I think it's an imaging thing more than anything. Like, you can hear it on 1266, but with Immanis it's like it has its own little space to itself in the left ear. So actual resolution-wise you can hear it on 1266, but there's not enough space around it to hear it quite so clearly.

I don't mean to overstate the impact of this, but it's a good example of how well Immanis images for me to notice such a thing.
 
Nov 1, 2024 at 8:41 AM Post #3,210 of 4,918
Hearing for the 3rd time now, I cant say I hear it "very clearly" on APX but its rather clear and textured "zzhug" I havent heard before yet. I barely can hear it on my Susvara.

Getting Immanis for a final pre-purchase home demo hopefully in a couple of weeks, will be exciting to compare it with res monster APX.
 
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