Jun 9, 2024 at 11:32 AM Post #2,146 of 3,569
I anecdotally recall that when the creator(s) of Susvara were asked why the design hasn't been updated in years and how they could improve it, they would cheekily respond, "OK...how?!?"

Seems like they found a way.

Given the differences in driver tech, I suspect it will be much the same as the regular Susvara - different strokes for different folks. Seems like the important question is, what qualities do you value most and what would sway you one way or the other?
Equally, what qualities do they uniquely possess that would make them complementary to each other in a very small but perfectly sounding summit-fi collection? Or are they so genuinely divisive that it truly is a case of may the best headphone win (for each person’s ears and preferences).
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 11:58 AM Post #2,147 of 3,569
Danny was at T.H.E. Show in Costa Mesa yesterday, wanting to check out some amps by Viva and Trafomatic on Immanis, but also got invited to listen to Shangri La and the new Susvara Unveiled. He's buddies with HifiMan rep...Nice quiet room, had all the time he needed, heard all the music he wanted...

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Huge cup comparatively

So, tomorrow? Customs Santa pretty please :D
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 12:06 PM Post #2,148 of 3,569
Huge cup comparatively

So, tomorrow? Customs Santa pretty please :D
I so hope my Immanis arrives tomorrow.
If not nobody will be at home until friday to pick up the package
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 12:18 PM Post #2,149 of 3,569
I so hope my Immanis arrives tomorrow.
If not nobody will be at home until friday to pick up the package
Thing is, for me, if it's not tomorrow, then I have a lost holiday listening to it, then I also work on friday (Friday is weekend here) though I have saturday I guess at least, but meh, kinda would still suck not having it for the holiday
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 12:19 PM Post #2,150 of 3,569
Thing is, for me, if it's not tomorrow, then I have a lost holiday listening to it, then I also work on friday (Friday is weekend here) though I have saturday I guess at least, but meh, kinda would still suck not having it for the holiday
You've got years of listening to them ahead of you though... 😎
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 12:55 PM Post #2,151 of 3,569
I wanted to go the Cost Mesa show but then thought about the traffic in Los Angeles. It is a good show if you can get to it. I have gone before.

"The Show" that I am interested in is the one you guys in Colorado are going to have this month. I hope you guys post your impressions from that gathering on here.
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 3:12 PM Post #2,152 of 3,569
All we want to know is, how Immanis compares to Susun 😁
Hearing Susvara Unveiled at T.H.E. Show, yesterday, was an unexpected surprise and pleasure (I suppose all surprises are unexpected). Richard Zhang, a great fellow, I've gotten to know over the years, was in charge of the presentation and he graciously gave me plenty of time for listening.

I have big respect for HiFiMan. It's a lot of work to design, produce, market, employ, pay taxes and become a company as successful as HiFiMan. Great company with great people and they know their audience!

Naturally, the #1 question I've been asked... Immanis vs Susvara. Having heard the new Susvara, I want to know... Susvara vs Susvara.

It's been about a year since I last listened to a Susvara, so I'm relying on an imperfect memory here. I can confirm it sounds every bit as I remember Susvara. This is where a side-by-side listen of 1st and 2nd generation could be helpful for spotting where specific improvements have been made. I'm confident, if you like the original Susvara, you won't be disappointed with Susvara Unveiled. It's a fine headphone, just as you would expect.

I also enjoyed quality time with Shangri-La ($55K) with amp. There seems to be a thread of sonic philosophy running through both Susvara and Shangri-La. Not suggesting they sound the same but, both feature a smooth and refined rendering of whatever you play. They present things pretty and polite. Mildly reminiscent of photo filters used to smooth facial lines before posting a pic. Or, as Homer Simpson might say "A jelly donut glistening with a sweet, sweet glaze."

Immanis vs Susvara...
Both are worthy of high praise for achieving audio excellence. However, comparison is inappropriate. For they are of different worlds. It's going to come down to you, the listener.

As for my 2 cents, Immanis is unapologetically reflective of whatever music you happen to be listening to. It's also reflective of amps, DACs, cable and phases of the moon... I like the unvarnished individuality of records, engineers, instruments, microphones. All that stuff, be they pretty or ugly. I enjoy smooth and I enjoy rough, just don't ever bore me.
All we want to know is, how Immanis compares to Susun 😁
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 4:08 PM Post #2,153 of 3,569
Good morning

in my opinion the hifiman amp/dac does not do justice to the shangri senior, but it is true that this headset is characterized, among other things, by great softness.
I hope this won't stop me from enjoying the Immanis :)

Thank you for your report

nb can I ask you 2 or 3 pieces of music that you used for your listening? THANKS
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 4:31 PM Post #2,154 of 3,569
Good morning

in my opinion the hifiman amp/dac does not do justice to the shangri senior, but it is true that this headset is characterized, among other things, by great softness.
I hope this won't stop me from enjoying the Immanis :)

Thank you for your report

nb can I ask you 2 or 3 pieces of music that you used for your listening? THANKS
I listened to several pieces but, only remember "Chameleon" by Herbie Hancock from Head Hunters album, "Might As Well Be Spring" by Blossom Dearie and "Desperado" Diana Krall version, "Get Lucky" along with several other artist. I heard a lot of music, hard to remember all.
Hopefully, I didn't give the impression Immanis doesn't play pretty or soft, it certainly does.
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 4:54 PM Post #2,155 of 3,569
Huge cup comparatively
Not really.
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Jun 9, 2024 at 5:26 PM Post #2,156 of 3,569
Hearing Susvara Unveiled at T.H.E. Show, yesterday, was an unexpected surprise and pleasure (I suppose all surprises are unexpected). Richard Zhang, a great fellow, I've gotten to know over the years, was in charge of the presentation and he graciously gave me plenty of time for listening.

I have big respect for HiFiMan. It's a lot of work to design, produce, market, employ, pay taxes and become a company as successful as HiFiMan. Great company with great people and they know their audience!

Naturally, the #1 question I've been asked... Immanis vs Susvara. Having heard the new Susvara, I want to know... Susvara vs Susvara.

It's been about a year since I last listened to a Susvara, so I'm relying on an imperfect memory here. I can confirm it sounds every bit as I remember Susvara. This is where a side-by-side listen of 1st and 2nd generation could be helpful for spotting where specific improvements have been made. I'm confident, if you like the original Susvara, you won't be disappointed with Susvara Unveiled. It's a fine headphone, just as you would expect.

I also enjoyed quality time with Shangri-La ($55K) with amp. There seems to be a thread of sonic philosophy running through both Susvara and Shangri-La. Not suggesting they sound the same but, both feature a smooth and refined rendering of whatever you play. They present things pretty and polite. Mildly reminiscent of photo filters used to smooth facial lines before posting a pic. Or, as Homer Simpson might say "A jelly donut glistening with a sweet, sweet glaze."

Immanis vs Susvara...
Both are worthy of high praise for achieving audio excellence. However, comparison is inappropriate. For they are of different worlds. It's going to come down to you, the listener.

As for my 2 cents, Immanis is unapologetically reflective of whatever music you happen to be listening to. It's also reflective of amps, DACs, cable and phases of the moon... I like the unvarnished individuality of records, engineers, instruments, microphones. All that stuff, be they pretty or ugly. I enjoy smooth and I enjoy rough, just don't ever bore me.

Thanks for your impressions. I’m surprised and somewhat disappointed Susvara Unveiled remains smooth and polite. I was hoping the new version would shake things up. If Immanis does not have this character perhaps that’s more my upgrade path.
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 5:29 PM Post #2,157 of 3,569
Thanks for your impressions. I’m surprised and somewhat disappointed Susvara Unveiled remains smooth and polite. I was hoping the new version would shake things up. If Immanis does not have this character perhaps that’s more my upgrade path.
You will love the Immanis then
 
Jun 9, 2024 at 5:31 PM Post #2,158 of 3,569
Jun 9, 2024 at 5:36 PM Post #2,159 of 3,569
Not really.
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They’re different. So what? What does it matter? You all seem to forget that the purpose of the headphone is to transduce, to convert electrical signal into sound. How do they sound? I expect they’re both very good. I already know that Immanis gives me great happiness at my time of life. I hope Susun does the same for those who prefer the planar type of presentation of sound. It’s music we actually listen to, at least it is for me.
 
Jun 10, 2024 at 2:41 PM Post #2,160 of 3,569

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