Questions about certain differences in the headphone drivers
Sep 13, 2015 at 4:47 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 9

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Hi everyone! I keep searching and gathering information about the headphone repairing subject and I have some new questions this time in regards of the physical differences of the headphone drivers.
 
My first question relies on this image: http://postimg.org/image/9rb80d0pn/
 
Those are some of my most old drivers which are no longer working. What I want to fully understand is: why the driver on the left has four soldering points while the one in the right has only two? their main cables are completely different by the way, one has three mini wires while the other has four.
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Sep 13, 2015 at 7:46 AM Post #2 of 9
Usually when a driver has multiple solder points, it's so the headphone can have a single sided cable entry, and two of the tabs share a common ground wire, so the right channel driver connects directly to the common ground (return signal) on the left driver (most commonly single sided entry is on the left side)
 
Not sure what you mean by 'mini wires' and the pic isn't high enough resolution to guess what you mean by that.
 
Sep 13, 2015 at 4:55 PM Post #3 of 9
Originally Posted by GREQ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
Not sure what you mean by 'mini wires' and the pic isn't high enough resolution to guess what you mean by that.

 
Oh, I mean the little wires that are inside of the main cable, I think they are called the signal wires (blue and red) and the ground (golden) those are not shown in the pic though.
 
Originally Posted by GREQ /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
Usually when a driver has multiple solder points, it's so the headphone can have a single sided cable entry, and two of the tabs share a common ground wire, so the right channel driver connects directly to the common ground (return signal) on the left driver (most commonly single sided entry is on the left side)

 
Ok, let's assume that we are treating two drivers like the left one of the previous pic and we found wires like these (sorry for the bad quality): http://postimg.org/image/4vgs05fbv/
 
The red wire of the right driver is connected to the blue wire of the main cable, will that be a correct union?
 
The red wire and the ground of the main cable are ready to be connected, likewise, the ground of the right driver. Are those three wires the ones that need to be connected to the left driver or there is a mistake? if everything is ok, I need to follow a specific order to connect them in the soldering points or I can place them anywhere?
 
Sep 14, 2015 at 3:50 AM Post #4 of 9
Oh, so you mean the cores inside the main cable...
Ok, basically 4 cores usually means the cable is 'higher quality' since the Left and Right channels don't bottle-neck through one Ground cable, but two...
Obviously this isn't a perfect solution either, since the 2 ground cores meet at the Plug where the signal joins together again anyway, so it's not a perfectly balanced signal path.
 
Technicalities aside, 3 or 4 cores makes little to no difference in a simple standard headphone - this only comes into significance with balanced amplification, but let's not go into that right now.
 
 
Wire colours:
So assuming you leave the RED wire of the Right Driver connected to the BLUE of the MAIN cable, you should do the following:
• All Gold cables are GROUND and should meet together on the LEFT driver.
• Red Main Cable should connect to the Left Driver.
 
So yes, there is a correct order to this. If you solder incorrectly you may end up with one driver with reversed polarity which will sound weird. 
Or you might end up with one channel on both sides, and the other channel ONLY on the other.
 
Side Notes:
Industry standard is usually:
• Gold/copper = Ground
• Red = Right
• Blue = Left
But Philips usually has this reversed and have Green instead of Blue.
And AKG has White and Red, where White is RIGHT. 
And I've seen others with no colours at all.. so it's never that simple 
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Sep 14, 2015 at 5:03 AM Post #5 of 9
 Originally Posted by GREQ 
 
So assuming you leave the RED wire of the Right Driver connected to the BLUE of the MAIN cable, you should do the following:
• All Gold cables are GROUND and should meet together on the LEFT driver.
• Red Main Cable should connect to the Left Driver.

 
Ok, but from left to right I have 4 soldering points in the driver and there are two ground wires (one from the main cable and the other from the right driver), those two must be connected together in one single soldering point or by separated? and it makes any difference if I connect them in the central soldering points or in the outer right/left? the same goes for the red main cable, should I connect it to any soldering point in specific?
 
 Originally Posted by GREQ 
 
So yes, there is a correct order to this. If you solder incorrectly you may end up with one driver with reversed polarity which will sound weird. 
Or you might end up with one channel on both sides, and the other channel ONLY on the other.

 
I see, and if something is wrong, is there any simple way to detect it in the system or it all depends of our hearing skill? for example, I use Windows 7 and I have the speaker test where the system reproduces a sound in each channel by separated, left and right. You think this should be enough to determine any anomaly with the sound or are there more specialized tools? Thanks!
 
Sep 14, 2015 at 6:15 AM Post #6 of 9
This website has a handy 'left' 'right' channel test - http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
 
Where to solder on the driver is anyone's guess, since there are no industry standards for this. This can only be done through trial and error or using cold contacts (un-soldered) to figure it out.
I would assume that the two on the left are ground and the two on the right are live for that channel... but one contact could be 'dead' and only useful for joining wires together.
 
Sep 14, 2015 at 7:41 PM Post #7 of 9
  This website has a handy 'left' 'right' channel test - http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
 
Where to solder on the driver is anyone's guess, since there are no industry standards for this. This can only be done through trial and error or using cold contacts (un-soldered) to figure it out.
I would assume that the two on the left are ground and the two on the right are live for that channel... but one contact could be 'dead' and only useful for joining wires together.

 
Thanks for the info CREQ! and what a useful test, I'll make sure to bookmark it!
 
Now, besides the wiring and soldering issue, I would like to ask you:
 
1. Electrically speaking, what is the function of the ground wires in the headphone? could a headphone work if those wires are not connected inside?
 
2. A bigger drive is necessarily more optimal in sound terms than a smaller drive? if we take the two drives of my previous pic for example, would that apply?
 
3. If I want to change a headphone cable, where can I find new substitutes? are they available at sound or electronic stores? if not, can I use cables from other devices?
 
Sep 15, 2015 at 3:30 AM Post #8 of 9
1. Electrically speaking, what is the function of the ground wires in the headphone? could a headphone work if those wires are not connected inside?

The function of the ground wires is to return the signal back to the source device (headphone amp, mp3 player, laptop, phone, etc) without a ground wire connection, the electrical circuit is not complete so electricity cannot travel. 
The path would effectively be broken.
 
2. A bigger drive is necessarily more optimal in sound terms than a smaller drive? if we take the two drives of my previous pic for example, would that apply?

In my experience, the driver on the left looks more modern and I can only GUESS that it should sound better than the one on the right, which looks older and  less capable.
Unfortunately, it's more complicated than that, since the driver is only a small part in the equation of how a headphone will sound.
• Earpads: Shape, size, depth, materials, etc will change how a headphone sounds.
• Enclosure: Open, closed, size, shape, material, acoustic damping will change how it sounds.
• Baffle: (the part the driver sits on) - material, density, venting and damping help tune the air-flow and sound of the driver.
 
Also larger drivers need more special consideration in design to prevent distortions from occurring over such a large 'inactive' surface area.
Dynamic drivers rely on a single thin area (the voice coil) as the 'motor' of the diaphragm, so most of the diaphragm surface is passive. 
We can assume that the 'active' area of the diaphragm (the part that connects to the voice coil) is the most accurate and free from distortions, and the passive areas are more susceptible to distorting and affecting the sound - which can increase as the surface area increases.
However, larger dynamic drivers are usually more able to produce very low sub-bass frequencies as they push a larger surface area of air.
 
Planar-type drivers are generally larger than dynamic drivers, but since they're driven and controlled over almost the entire surface of the diaphragm, they can be MUCH larger without suffering distortions.
However, they need just as careful attention to ear pad, baffle, damping and enclosure tuning.

There are even more variables than this, and we could go on forever talking about them, so take the above with a MASSIVE pinch of salt and a gross-over-simplification 
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3. If I want to change a headphone cable, where can I find new substitutes? are they available at sound or electronic stores? if not, can I use cables from other devices?

You can easily use cables from other headphones (thank you captain obvious) but generally headphone cables are more 'specialty' and are not commonly found in electronic stores.
Most hobbyists use microphone cables since they can come with 4-cores, but often they're too thick and heavy to be useful for headphone, and are often stripped and re-sheathed with fabric alternatives like para-cord.
Maybe you should check out the "DIY cables" thread in the DIY section of the forum - lots of cool stuff there.
 

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