PX 200 lol Again

[bugs2]

Hi.
A great forum here someone from home theatre froum told me about this site and it's great. Thank you.
I have a pair of Senn. px 100 which I use when riding my street bicycle
I'm thinking of purchasing the px 200.
Would I get a better sound outside with these? I have searched the forums for suggestions.
I have read the 200 are hard to get a good fit is this because of the small head ear phone over ears or maybe harder over larger ears.
I guess anyone would think me nuts if I own both pairs.
Thanks

 

[Veniogenesis]

Welcome to Head-Fi!

I've tried the PX200 and I think it's pretty terrible. I think the sound is actually relatively poor compared to the PX100. For inexpensive sealed/closed headphones, the AKG K26P is your best bet.

Regards,
Venio

 

[ILUVIPODS]

I would pass the 200s. I have a small head, and got a good seal, but they stil didnt sound nearly as good as the 100s. If you want some headphones to wear while riding a bike, get Koss KSC75.

 

[fureshi]

it really depends on your taste in sound. i personally hated the px100 but really liked the px200. the px100 was too dark and the bass was too bloated for my tastes, even after buying them the second time because i wanted to give them a second chance. the px200 has tighter bass and highs and mids that are less cloudy. as many have mentioned here, the fit isn't always perfect for everyone and you need a good fit for good sound.

i think a better sound headphone for about the same price is the ES5 from Audio Technica. they can be had from bluetin for about $60.

 

[Jasper994]

Welcome to Head-Fi!

I had both for quite a while. I prefered the PX200, but it seems most people prefered the PX100. For outside the PX200 has some positives and negatives. If you live in an area without a lot of wind the little bit of isolation they provide is very nice. On the other hand, if you're in breezy areas a lot, you'll find that they really amplify wind noise.

I haven't heard them, but the AKG 26P has been given the nod by Iron_Dreamer and a few others. I trust his ears quite a bit since I've known him for a long time and we've been to many meets together and hung out a lot listening to the same gear. He felt they bettered many headphones in the under $100 range. You can pick them up from Guitar Center (if you've got one of them around) for $32 + tax.

 

[Oliver :)]

Never compared with the 100s, but as it was already said, the PX 200 amplifies wind noise quite a bit, even when you're just walking. It is also not as easily driven and only really shines with an amp, IMVHO. While it does not provide much isolation for a closed phone you should stay with an open one for safety reasons. Is there anything you are missing from the PX 100? If you want a more fun sound, go for the KSC-35 / -75.

An by the way, nobody *here* would consider you nuts for having two pairs of phones, ever, most if the time not even when they are identical

 

[nickchen]

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Originally Posted by ILUVIPODS If you want some headphones to wear while riding a bike, get Koss KSC75.

Great idea, but this will only make sense if you like "equilized sound" and listen to things like Björk or Underworld. Stay away from the KSCs if you adore the PX100's neutraliy and prefer stringed instruments.

 

[kully]

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Originally Posted by nickchen Great idea, but this will only make sense if you like "equilized sound" and listen to things like Björk or Underworld. Stay away from the KSCs if you adore the PX100's neutraliy and prefer stringed instruments.

And they're useless riding a bike - the wind...

 

[bugs2]

Everyone thank you for great advice i will check into the other headsets mentioned here.
My friend said everyone here was very helpful so right she was.

 

[Brent Hutto]

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Originally Posted by fureshi it really depends on your taste in sound. i personally hated the px100 but really liked the px200. the px100 was too dark and the bass was too bloated for my tastes, even after buying them the second time because i wanted to give them a second chance. the px200 has tighter bass and highs and mids that are less cloudy. as many have mentioned here, the fit isn't always perfect for everyone and you need a good fit for good sound.

In another thread http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...42#post1558142 I posted my comments on the PX100 vs. PX200 and it sounds like we agree completely. I guess "bloated" is the usual term for when the upper bass/lower midrange sort of swallow up the higher frequencies. In the kind of music I like, acoustic guitar on PX100 can completely dominate whoever is singing along with it. If you close your eyes you can really imagine a giant, bloated Martin guitar the size of small refrigerator going boom-boom-boom on top of everything else on the stage.

Agreed on the fit thing. It's hard to keep them in place for a good sound just moving around the house. No way it works for bicycling or jogging.

Maybe someone should start an appreciation thread for PX200 lovers who think it's a much better headphone than the PX100. I'll bet it would be mostly people who like acoustic or live music. The PX100 can be pretty groovy on highly produced rock music.

 

[bull55]

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Originally Posted by Veniogenesis Welcome to Head-Fi! I've tried the PX200 and I think it's pretty terrible. I think the sound is actually relatively poor compared to the PX100. For inexpensive sealed/closed headphones, the AKG K26P is your best bet. Regards, Venio

I was evaluating similar type headphones for work, and the AKG K26P was recommended to me by multiple people on this forum. When I first got them out, I thought for sure I was going to break the metal bar to expand them to fit my head. But after doing this a couple of times, it appears pretty durable. You have to adjust these every time you put them on because when you take them off, the immediately begin to collapse and fold up.

The sound is even better than I expected, especially given the price, and they are really comfortable. I do notice constant "pink noise" when I have the volume turned low or when I am wearing them and no music is playing. I don't know if this is normal or it has something to do with my computer. Once, I turn the volume up so the music drowns out the "pink noise", these thing rock. I get a good seal, and isolation is great. I have already missed a couple of phone calls at work, because of it.

I am very happy with my purchase and the recommendations I got for these phones. Thanks to all that provided input on my decision.

 

[bull55]

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Originally Posted by bull55 I was evaluating similar type headphones for work, and the AKG K26P was recommended to me by multiple people on this forum. When I first got them out, I thought for sure I was going to break the metal bar to expand them to fit my head. But after doing this a couple of times, it appears pretty durable. You have to adjust these every time you put them on because when you take them off, the immediately begin to collapse and fold up. The sound is even better than I expected, especially given the price, and they are really comfortable. I do notice constant "pink noise" when I have the volume turned low or when I am wearing them and no music is playing. I don't know if this is normal or it has something to do with my computer. Once, I turn the volume up so the music drowns out the "pink noise", these thing rock. I get a good seal, and isolation is great. I have already missed a couple of phone calls at work, because of it. I am very happy with my purchase and the recommendations I got for these phones. Thanks to all that provided input on my decision.

Well, HOLY CRAP! The noise I was hearing resulted from plugging the headphones into the speaker's headphone jack. When I hooked them directly into the computer's sound card, I was introduced to a whole new spectrum of sound! Using my last pair of headphones, I couldn't hear any static when connected to the speakers, so this was a new problem for me. I am truly in love with these headphones now. The sound is absolutely crystal clear.

 

[sgrossklass]

AFAIK K26Ps are pretty sensitive, thus you're more likely to hear such background noise. Headphone jacks on computer speaker systems tend to be fairly lousy.

 

[bull55]

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Originally Posted by sgrossklass AFAIK K26Ps are pretty sensitive, thus you're more likely to hear such background noise. Headphone jacks on computer speaker systems tend to be fairly lousy.

lol, yeah. I guess the headphones I had in the past were far from sensitive. When I was posting to this thread initially, it made me think what the problem might be...so I eliminated the speakers, and worked like a charm. I figured I would follow up instead of leaving it out there like it was something to expect.

 

[Raymate]

If you are able to try a pair then do so, the views are split on this one.

I have both and the 200 to me are far far better than the 100, the 100 for me have to much bass and not a natural sounding mid/highs.

For me my reference are my HD600 and of course both the 100 & 200 are not the 600 but I feel the 200 are much closer to the natural sound I get with the 600.

Make sure you run in the 200, mine sounded very off to start with but now have over 500 hours on them and sound very good for the size and price.

Just got myself a pair of 300's and they again sound harsh but are on a constant burn it right now getting them ready for my first plane trip to test the noise removal powers.

But for now my 200 sound much better than my 300 but after a few hundred hours I must wait and see.

Hope this helps.

R